Re: Affordability -- a new leaf <FWD> | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Fred H Olson WB0YQM (fholson![]() |
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Date: Sun, 21 Aug 94 00:33 CDT |
Pablo Halpern phalpern [at] world.std.com is the author of this message but due to a listserv problem it was posted by the COHOUSING-L sysop. > From: mtracy [at] netcom.com . > For most of us, summer vacation means two weeks of play, our reward for f . > Cohousing, as it currently exists, is often more expensive than conventio > housing. ... I don't know any community for which this is true. In general a cohousing house costs the same (more or less) as an equivalent house outside of cohousing. If what you mean is that cohousing is mostly composed of upper-middle class people building expensive houses, you may be partly right. Affordable housing can rarely be built without subsidies and it always takes government a long time to recognize something as good enough to subsidize. > If you have enough money saved up to put a substantial down payment on > <affordable housing>, then you probably don't qualify. This is not true of all affordable housing programs. Ultimately, enough people have a down-payment *and* qualify for affordable housing such that waiting lists existfor most programs in existance. > Much of the architecture, design, and resulting effectiveness of cohousin > dictated by and limited to what the banks will accept. This last point and all of the previous points fall into the category of "that's the way it is." I don't mean that that's the way it *should be*, but that these facts have nothing directly to do with cohousing. Cohousing did not create these problems and I get upset when some people (not you, Martin) imply that the cohousing movement has a special responsibility to solve these and other problems. Here is a partial list of social problems that some people expect us to address through our choice in housing: Energy waste Environmental distruction Racism Homophobia Sexism Child abuse Lack of affordable housing Excessive control of our lives by banks Excessive control of our lives by employers Poor educational system Crime Poverty Difficulty finding reliable baby-sitters Not enough time to cook Too much stress No time to visit friends Lack of affordable child care Over-reliance on cars lonelyness etc. Some of these issues are things that cohousing is designed specifically to address. Others (such as energy efficiency) are things where any home-builder has partial, bot not total choice. (If the bank won't lend you more money to put up solar panels, then you don't have total control over your decision.) If you want banks to loan money for solar collectors or if you want government to subsidize affordable cohousing, I don't think this forum is the best place to address these issues (try the politics.* newsgroups). On the other hand, I do understand that these issues impact cohousing so I wouldn't be too upset to see this thread continue. Just count me as a "not interested" if you're keeping track. - Pablo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Pablo Halpern (508) 435-5274 phalpern [at] world.std.com New View Neighborhood Development, Acton, MA ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: Affordability -- a new leaf <FWD> Fred H Olson WB0YQM, August 18 1994
- Re: Affordability -- a new leaf <FWD> David G Adams, August 19 1994
- Re: Affordability -- a new leaf <FWD> Fred H Olson WB0YQM, August 20 1994
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