RE: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Jean Pfleiderer (pfleiderer_jWIZARD.COLORADO.EDU) | |
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 17:29 CST |
>Received: from kracken.uci.com by WIZARD.COLORADO.EDU (PMDF #12158) id > <01HLRJUJ2VEO8WVYYN [at] WIZARD.COLORADO.EDU>; Thu, 12 Jan 1995 16:10 GMT >Received: by kracken.uci.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.28.1 #28.3) id > <m0rSXID-0000QUa [at] kracken.uci.com>; Thu, 12 Jan 95 15:42 CST >Date: Thu, 12 Jan 95 17:03 CST >From: Rob Sandelin <robsan [at] microsoft.com> >Subject: RE: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) >Sender: cohousing-l [at] uci.com >Errors-to: fholson [at] maroon.tc.umn.edu >Reply-to: cohousing-l [at] uci.com > >Actually what is different is probably somewhere in our upbringings or >some other place where attitudes about visiting are instilled. I did >not mean to imply that Winslow would have a problem with me walking >around. I actually do not know if they have any sort of policy about >it. What I said was I would feel ..... That comes from me, not them. >I was taught and I guess feel pretty strongly still that visiting >someone's home who you do not know without an invitation is rude >behavior. I do not visit even my friends unless I call first. Its just >one of those value things I guess. My feeling, based I suppose on my >values, is that uninvited visitors to Sharingwood, who are walking >around in people yards and walkways, playing in the playground, peering >into windows of houses (this has happened) are being rude. Those are my >feelings and do not represent anything else. Sorry if it came across I >was trying to speak for Sharingwood or anybody else. > >Rob > > > Actually, Rob, I think you are right that people do have different values about these things. It seems to me that people wandering around in what are in fact the community's common areas are understandable, simply because it may not be obvious to them that this is "private property" in the usual sense of that term. Walking through people's yards where it is obvious that that's what they are, peering in windows (that's happened at Nyland, too) does seem inexcusable to me, too. Just as, taking a walk down a public street in Boulder I wouldn't think it okay to trample someone's roses so I could look into their study. But there are ranges on these issues and while most people would find the behavior I just described abnormal, to say the least (indeed, one could be arrested for it), many would not find walking on a sidewalk looking about at the homes and gardens around one abnormal, nor allowing one's children to play on what appeared to be a common playground. This country has had a pretty black-and-white notion of property; either its private, meaning belonging to an individual and his/her immediate family, or its public. The shades of gray will no doubt escape quite a few people. The thing about "dropping in" unannounced is definitely a cultural thing, too. When I was a kid, people did that sometimes, but they sure don't much any more. Nonetheless, I have friends who might drop in on me unannounced, and that would be okay with me; I wouldn't want them to feel they had to call ahead so that if someone on the pedestrian way accosted them, they could explain that they were "expected". Well, these are the interesting little anomalies we all get to explore as cohousers, eh? Jean Jean Pfleiderer Publications Specialist III University Management Systems University of Colorado
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Re: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) Fred H Olson WB0YQM, January 11 1995
- Re: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) Rob Sandelin, January 12 1995
- RE: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) Jean Pfleiderer, January 12 1995
- RE: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) Rob Sandelin, January 12 1995
- RE: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) Jean Pfleiderer, January 12 1995
- RE: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) Stuart Staniford-Chen, January 12 1995
- Re: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) Gary Shea, January 12 1995
- Re: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) 227-3182, January 13 1995
- Re: "Gawkers" at cohousing communities (FWD) Fred H Olson WB0YQM, January 13 1995
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