|Re: Building panels, etc||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Buzz Burrell (72253.2101compuserve.com)|
|Date: Thu, 9 Nov 1995 00:22:08 -0600|
I suggested manufactured housing was a very good method often overlooked ... but I never mentioned foam building panels, which is not considered manufactured housing. But now that you've mentioned it... *R-Control panels are the biggest brand, but like Mark said, regional manufacturers now exist. *I really respect and appreciate the concerns about foam outgassing and having a high emodied energy. However, keep in mind that fiberglass, which is what 95% of our insulation is, is not exactly tofu. I hate working with fiberglass, but bead board is fine. *As someone else asked, which uses less energy? Fiberglass is a notorious air leaker; an R-Control house is very tight, and actually performs to spec. *At this time, the "Stressed Skin Panel Insulation" (what they are really called) still have problems. They are not as easy to work with as expected. I think in time this will be solved. They are not practical on the south side, since there are so many openings. And finally, they have priced them abnormally high, intentionally appealing only to a small market. *The suggestion was made that a post and beam straw bale construction is better. I heartily agree. But how many of those have you seen? For the majority of people on this list, its fantasy. Its not for me, but its important to allow people to make the incremental steps. And (echoing still another persons statement that it is a complicated issue), keep in mind that post and beam uses the SAME amount of wood as stick framing. All the straw bale houses my friends are building are structural (no other framing) ... which at present, doesn't meet code. I think this is a real good discussion, and very worthy thoughts and questions are being expressed. Finally, from Mark Frauenglass, who signed off:: "Highline Crossing - conventionally framed 6" exterior walls, couldn't afford spray in cellulose, floors and roofs out of TJI's. Within our lifetimes all studs will be manufactured and dimensional lumber will be a thing of the past." Love it Mark! I'm writing this from Australia. Just yesterday I passed by a subdivision going up; all conventional, middle class, mass produced, stereotyped houses. For Australia; not for the US. I estimate these houses used *1/6* the amount of wood of the typical american production house! Completely different methods and materials. I probably will post a report soon, but for now let me say this: "...within our lifetimes..." is here now, if one leaves the States! From Europe to Asia to Downunder, the simple shortage of vast tracks of timber trees have led them to use very attractive, easy, effective, and cheap methods and materials that leave the forests standing. The economic incentive in action. The statement "It can't be done any other way" is, of course, a smokescreen. Take Care, Buzz Burrell 72253.2101 [at] compuserve.com Sydney, AUS (I've seen a Wallaby, but no Kangaroos so far. Come on, I know you were going to ask).
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