|RE: COHOUSING & TV (fwd)||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Cohousing-L listmgr (fholsonmtn.org)|
|Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 12:48:47 -0500|
Rob Sandelin Sharingwood floriferous [at] msn.com is the author of the message below but due to a problem it was posted by the Fred the list manager: owner-cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org NOTE: Forged subs and listserver "automatic removals" are causing havoc lately with the list. It's possible that I might make some mistakes in editing the list. If you have a problem write me at the address above. I am considering making the list "private" for a while which would require approval to subscribe (to combat forgeries). Fred ******************** FORWARDED MESSAGE FOLLOWS *********************** OK, I just have to jump into this thread again. (Boy, this reminds me of the Christmas tree thread we had a couple years ago...Whew! Lots of buttons getting pushed here) I agree with Stuart, if I were god of my community the ONLY TV I would allow would be IN the commonhouse. I agree totally that TV is an isolating activity, and like drinking, should never be done alone. TV is FUN! in community. A bunch of us all watched the basketball playoffs together (not in the commonhouse) and I think there was more commentary about the ads than the game. This made a big impression on the 13 year old who was also watching, and I have heard feedback since that he now mocks TV ads for subliminal hucksterism that they are. This is from one exposure to a bunch of critical thinking adults commenting about TV ads. Imagine the fun you could have if you did it regularly? Yeah, most TV is junk, but its fun in community, with a bunch of others to share it with. I don't watch it, and I don't let my kids watch it, but I am always glad to hear about TV parties happening in the neighborhood. Rob Sandelin Sharingwood Where 10 of us watched the movie, James and Giant Peach last night till late in the commonhouse (7 of us were under 10). ---------- From: cohousing-l [at] freedom.mtn.org on behalf of Stuart Staniford-Chen Sent: Saturday, April 12, 1997 12:03 AM Subject: Re: COHOUSING & TV Tom Nelson Scott wrote: > well now let me relate this to the coho list: if i have anything to > say about it, there won't be a tv in the common house of any > coho/ecovillage i live in. tv sucks. i mean that: it sucks brains in > like a vacuum. a person's consciousness goes right down the tube as he > sits there and watches the awful thing. worse than drugs because it > seems like such a nice thing. > It may seem strange, but I'm now going to turn around and argue that Tom should not take this position (particularly not in the context of a consensus based cohousing group - you have to live with people who will feel very differently about it than you). I have personally been there and done that - feeling as I do about television, I initially was very concerned when people in N St wanted to put a TV in the common house. However, after it was there, it turned out that the uses of it were pretty unproblematic. The common house TV does not get watched excessively, and when people do watch it, it tends to be movies or particular events of interest (eg elections) and the TV watching is in part a social occasion. Nobody ever tried to watch it during community dinner or anything like that. In my experience, TV watching in cohousing is not a major problem. It is, for the most part, moderate, targeted at particular favorite programs, and social. This is in sharp distinction to TV watching for most people in the U.S. which is immoderate, indiscriminate, and isolating. That's one of the reasons cohousing is so cool. Stuart. [I'll try and shut up about this now.:-)]
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