|RE: COHOUSING & TV||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Don Olivier (donhsph.harvard.edu)|
|Date: Wed, 16 Apr 1997 17:15:24 -0500|
Joani Blank <jeblank [at] hooked.net> wrote: > I'm kinda surprised that none of you smart folk out there (a few of whom I > hazard a guess are social scientiests), have gotten into this discussion > yet. I hoped that someone who is smarter than I am about this would point > out that just because TV violence isand actual violence increase over the > same time period, one (TV )does not necessarily CAUSE the other (violence). > A lot of other things have happened during the last 20 years ... As one of those social scientists I feel guilty for not having spoken up. The logical fallacy that Joani points out is an old one, so old it has a Latin name ("post hoc ergo propter hoc"). We were cautioned against it when we began our study of social-science data analysis, but there's nothing esoteric here, just simple common sense. Worth calling attention to, though, because it keeps coming up. Probably harmless in this context, but how many times have you heard, for example, that marijuana use must be strenuously suppressed because it leads to the use of more dangerous substances-- most crack users start as marijuana users! (To be sure, almost all of them were habitual milk users even before that.) In the cohousing context I would propose that the most important relationship between TV and the quality of community is diagnostic: if the community is working the way it should be working, TV won't be a problem, but if TV is causing trouble, something is wrong, whether the trouble is that TV is watched too much, or that it's not available when you want it, or (most likely I suspect) that too much time is being wasted in meetings arguing about TV policy. While we're on the topic, I have to put in my two cents on the subject of computers. The situation is just the same, perhaps more so because there's even more variety in the ways people use computers than in the ways they use TV. Donna Spreitzer recently wrote > I also > must admit that some of my negative feelings about TV go for computers as > well.... I do think that computers > however well used they are, still take away from personal interaction. Might I point out that as Donna wrote those words, she was using a computer to interact with me and the other people who read this list. Don't we count as "interaction"? 8-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Don Olivier *** Cornerstone Village Cohousing *** Cambridge, MA
- Re: COHOUSING & TV, (continued)
- Re: COHOUSING & TV Dan Everett, April 17 1997
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