Re: co-housing v.s. old-fashioned neighborliness
From: dwn2erth (
Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 17:58:37 -0500
liz stevenson thinks my goal is to "demoralize good people" and that I am
being truly offensive by questioning the approach and thinking underlying
the the larger number of cohousing projects. The fact that a few are
developed as urban revitalization does not change the fact that most are
not, and, the fact that i think that people should open their eyes and
recognize land development for what it is not offensive and doesn't deseve
to be labeled as such just because i disagree. I believe that as a 16th
generation quaker farm family, land planner, and environmental scientist
who has watched watched our open space in the northeast destroyed by land
developers of every ilk from the environmentally sensitive clustered type
to the obviously uncaring, I care and hope that other "caring" people will
also care and recognize the actual resultsof their actions. I have heard
"efficient land use" argued from all sides. so what!  How about if we
produce no more  suburban housing... ZERO GROWTH in other words.. terribly
sorry you find dissent offensive. must make concensus discussion
>dwn2erth [at]

> From: Roman Bitner <lilbert [at]>
> Subject: Re: co-housing v.s. old-fashioned neighborliness
> Date: Thursday, May 14, 1998 4:07 PM
> Jim Willits wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >         I have to agree with robin ellison. the continued suburban
sprawl with
> > "hip" new packaging ..."cohousing" is still just traditional suburban
> > sprawl. Urban restoration and village revitalization is the real need
> > the unit costs can be very low by selecting the neighborhood. The
> > impact of a similar group investment into an existing neighborhood
would be
> > very significant and could change the course of history for a
> > neighborhood.    jim willits
> > http//
> > http//willits [at]
> My guess is that you have not seen or heard of Southside Park Cohousing,
> N Street Cohousing, or any of the retrofit cohousings built or being
> built. You have missed one of the crucial ideas in cohousing, not
> mentioned as much as it should be, perhaps. Efficient land use is key to
> cohousing and many of us are deeply committed to it. You are way out of
> line to say we are suburban sprawl. There ARE groups who include low and
> moderate income houses, and we worked hard to be one of them. Please do
> your homework before posting again. Your only motivation seems to be to
> demoralize good people who are trying to build a better community, and
> it is really offensive. 
> Liz Stevenson

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