Re: Private use of common land | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Lynn Nadeau (welcome![]() |
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:15:19 -0500 |
At RoseWind Cohousing, Port Townsend WA, we have about four and a half acres (blocks) of common land. Two acres of it are taken up by the common house block, and another adjacent common block where we plan such uses as home occupation offices or studios and perhaps a common hobby and repair shop. Some of the rest is in a large central grassy field, where there are also wild rose thickets, a pump house-garden shed, and some vegetable gardens. The remaining commons is sort of intertwined with the housing, including some areas that are like local courtyards for certain groups of houses, and other areas that form corridors of commons for paths and such, among the houses. These "local" commons can be designed by their immediate neighbors, but the plans are supposed to be OK'd by the landscape committee. We've talked for years about adopting official criteria for commons use, but more urgent stuff seems to always intervene. So this isn't our official policy, but parts of it will doubtless get adopted when we get to it. In the meanwhile, perhaps it will suggest to others what sort of issues are involved USE of the COMMONS--an OVERVIEW On the commons there are some things you a) can do - for sure, anytime, without a thought as to whether it's ok ex: walk, hum, eat a sandwich, dig out thistles and dandelions b) can't do- ever, ex: burn it down, paint it red, dump toxic wastes In between, there are things we figure we can do because c) we see no harm in them and don't imagine anyone else would see harm d) someone else did it, or we did it before, and nobody objected e) we think it improves things for everyone C-D-E ARE RISKY BECAUSE WE HAVE SEEN THAT ASSUMPTIONS ARE NOT SHARED; OTHERS DO NOT ALWAYS THINK AS YOU DO OR THINK THEY SHOULD Then there are things we f) figure we can do, but had better check with someone else because something makes us wonder if it's for sure ok, or because we want to be polite g) know we can do, once we get a specified permission ; or know the CC&Rs require permission but we don't know what constitutes permission h) wish we could do, but doubt if other member(s) would approve i) wish we could do, but have past experience that others disapprove WRITTEN GUIDELINES in such cases TAKE AWAY A LOT OF GUESSWORK. Then there are things we j) recognize as "risky" but do anyway, either hoping it will slide by, be forgiven, or get rationalized afterwards k) know others disapprove, even that something is proscribed in our CC&Rs, but do anyway because we don't think the proscription is reasonable- we place ourselves "above the law", perhaps thinking that if we don't think it's an important rule, then others must not either, so won't really care if we do it. THESE ERODE TRUST. "LOCAL COMMONS" refers to those areas which are close to individual lots and seem to logically offer areas in which some people will spend more time -- both in maintenance and recreation-- than the general RW population. It should be clarified in which areas which individuals or groups of people feel this sort of "local" interest. Appropriate use of local commons (or anywhere on the commons, for that matter): Proposed criteria- A use is acceptable if it is found that it 1) Is in accord with the CC&Rs and any other relevant group decisions or policies 2) Does not preclude use or enjoyment by other members 3) Does not preclude uses others have projected for the space 4) Does not create negative effects like litter, undue noise, fire hazards, friction with non-RW neighbors 5) Does not create liability risks that the group is unwilling to take 6) Does not damage the natural features unacceptably 7) Is acceptably attractive 8) Does not create future maintenance needs beyond what the creators, or the group, will accept responsibility for Is the use permanent? ( a large concrete sculpture, for example, or a forest of bamboo) In that case, particular attention should be paid to the future implications: are they OK? The garden areas are a special case, and the Landscape Committee needs to work out a plan so people know if and how they can raise things on the commons.
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Private use of common land Pablo Halpern, May 29 1998
- Re: Private use of common land Ben Levi, May 30 1998
- RE: Private use of common land Rob Sandelin, May 30 1998
- Re: Private use of common land Lynn Nadeau, June 1 1998
- Re: Private Use of Common Land Mac Thomson, June 3 1998
- Re: Private Use of Common Land Philip W. Bush, June 3 1998
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