RE: Common Meals | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Eileen McCourt (Eileen.McCourtexodus.net) | |
Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 21:06:02 -0600 (MDT) |
Liz, Resentment can come from doing things you don't want to do, or are not inclined to do, and having values placed on one type of contribution over another. I certainly hope that the many hours I put in as treasurer, and my future plans for the landscape committee will be as valued in their contribution to community life as cooking and cleaning. Just what is the value of cooking and cleaning over other forms of work? Are there other forms of work that people are "required" to do in order to participate in the benefits? That's the question I'm asking. I guess it's been solved at your community by separating food and other forms of work. I'm not clear on the values driving the decision to separate different types of work. --eileen Eileen McCourt emccourt [at] mindspring.com Oak Creek Commons Cohousing Paso Robles, CA http://www.oakcreekcommons.org -----Original Message----- From: cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org [mailto:cohousing-l-admin [at] cohousing.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Stevenson Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 9:16 AM To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Subject: Re: [C-L]_Common Meals This is in reply to Robert's and Sharon's posts. Our meal costs are lower. Older than sixteen, and it's 2 bucks, under, it's 1, and under 4 don't pay at all. We still end up making money. My guess is the expensive meals are organic, or have fancier food. Or maybe it's just that we live in the Central Valley of California and food is plentiful, cheap and fresh. As to required cooking, Sharon, I think your analogy is deliberately overstated. We require cooking, and we require other work, too. They are not related in our work system. "Require" isn't like it's written into the CC&Rs, though. Things are flexible. One person likes cooking so much, she does it as her work requirement as well, cooking for weekend work parties once or twice a month. Others do a bare minimum of cooking and like to buy pre-fab meals they mostly just heat up. Lasagna bought at the warehouse store is great for that. I don't understand all this concern about resentment. How can something everyone has to do be unfair?? I would think there'd be alot more resentment if only some people cooked! I think the idea of people cooking if they want to eat is very fair. But if you have someone putting in horrible numbers of hours on bookkeeping, and they resent it, why not make it more flexible and let them eat without cooking? I don't see that as a reason to throw out mandatory cooking at all. Just keep things flexible for special cases. BTW, our bookkeeper cooks great meals, and doesn't mind. -- Liz Stevenson Southside Park Cohousing Sacramento, California tamgoddess [at] home.com http://members.home.net/southsideparkcohousing >From Sharon: > what does this mean for other kinds of work in > the community? > > Do people who look at the flowers have to plant them? Do people who pay > their condo fees have to do the bookkeeping? Can only people with children > provide child care? > > If someone is working long hours as treasurer, do they also have to cook in > order to eat? > > I _think_ I would rather see all work for the community valued equally. Some > will cook more and others will be working in the garden more. Some will be > doing computer support and others kid support. Having everyone required to > do everything seems a prescription for burnout. ---------- >From Robert: (Three people X three meals X > seven days X two dollars per meal=126 dollars a week, which is just a > whole lot more than I ever spend on groceries). I've been assuming that > economy of scale would keep meal prices lower than that, but maybe there > are other factors? > > Thanks, > > Robert Arjet _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
- Re: Common Meals, (continued)
- Re: Common Meals MartyR707, October 9 1999
- Re: Common Meals Unnat, October 9 1999
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Re: Common Meals Elizabeth Stevenson, April 17 2001
- Details on Resentment issues in mandatory cooking Rob Sandelin, April 18 2001
- RE: Common Meals Eileen McCourt, April 17 2001
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Re: Common Meals Laura Fitch, A.I.A., January 29 2002
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