|Re: homeowners assoc. dues||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Jim Snyder-Grant (jimsgnewview.org)|
|Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2001 06:10:02 -0600 (MDT)|
(Amy wrote from Pathways about a few HOA fee questions, mostly around the balnce between individually charging or sharing costs among everyone) At New View (Acton MA) we have 'hybrid' calculated dues. Each household gets possibly unique dues, because part of our formula relies on 'livable square footage', which varies from house to house, and another part relies on a simplified calculation of surface area. (what's the surface area of the smallest rectangular box that could cover your house). The part of the fees that is distributed equally per household is 60%. The exact formula is in the archives. Apologies for not digging it out right now. We recalc once a year at most. Since this is the same formula that we use for 'beneficial interest', and requires changing our condo docs (= legal fees) we minimize changes. I belive we have changed it twice in two years, once after construction to reflect the houses people actually built, and once to reflect an addition (and to correct a math error). The stuff that is distributed in proportion to livable square footage is stuff that we figured, over time, would get more wear and tear the more people used it. livable square footage is supposed to be a proxy for how many people will be living in a house, averaged over time. So, common house maintenence is in the square-footage bucket. Stuff that does not cost more if there more people is divided equally - For example, insurance & snow removal is in the per household bucket. Finally, the replacement reserves, which are mostly meant for replacing roofs & walls, are divided up in proportion to a rough surface area calculation. Also, I should mention that we DON'T re-do the formula each year based on an anticipated budget or actual expenses. The split was calculated before we moved in looking at a rough budget. Most people here do NOT perceive their condo fees as split in these ways. Now it's just seen that larger houses 'pay a bit more'. We have not heard complaints form the larger (or smaller) households about this. Remaining stuff that is on an individual fee basis: -meals -shared DSL line (is proposed to be shared by all once we get 90%+ participation. Currently is $10/month). -Our complex & ever-changing CH cleaning & garbage collection scheme A few times we have heard concerns of the form "I don't use X, why should I pay for it". We have been able to achieve consensus and move on, however, mostly based on the idea that nothing is used by everybody, but the overall collection of stuff we have benefits everyone. Also, everyone understands the difficulty of getting another volunteer to do another individual payment scheme. Jim Snyder-Grant jimsg [at] newview.org 18 Half Moon Hill Acton MA 01720 New View Cohousing http://www.newview.org ----- Original Message ----- From: Peteramy8 [at] aol.com To: Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: [C-L]_homeowners assoc. dues Hi. I'm writing from Pathways Cohousing in Northampton, Ma. We've all been moved in for a little over a year and are considering changing the structure of our dues. Right now for reasons that no longer exist, they are based solely on # of bedrooms. I've read the archives and am very interested in the dues that are a hybrid of expenses, some divided equally, some alloted by square footage, etc. I have a couple of questions for those of you who do this - 1)Does each individual household have it's own unique fee, or are there catagories? 2)When changes occur in a household, such as an addition or a birth, do changes in the fee occur right away or at the beginning of the next fiscal year? 3) We're thinking that the costs shared equally will be for things that are available to everyone, even though some households may use things more or less that others. Have any of you ever had squabbling about this? ie:" I never use the guest rooms in the common house, why should I pay for their upkeep" (Not that we anticipate someone will say that but we were just wondering.) I appreciate your time and thought, Amy _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
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