Re: Consensus vs Majority Voting | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharonsharonvillines.com) | |
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:31:01 -0600 (MDT) |
on 7/16/2002 11:05 AM, cscheuer [at] umich.edu at cscheuer [at] umich.edu wrote: > In the consensus > system if members disengage because of the process, how do you bring them > back in? Better process. Consensus is not a process, it is a decision threshold. One of my concerns with the way cohousing groups tend to use consensus is that it is confused with process. There has to be a process that enables you to come to consensus. (I don't agree that CT Butler's Formal Consensus is a process. It is just another way of stating the generally accepted steps for discussing a proposal that have been used in parliamentary procedure for well over a hundred years.) In some definitions, consensus is similar to a majority vote but the definition of "majority" is 100% of the voters. Some groups do "all but one" or 90%. This doesn't feel like consensus to me but I'm told some groups do it (not in cohousing that I know of). I prefer the definition of consensus that Sociocracy uses which is "no objections". It doesn't mean you agree, but only that you have no objections. They tend to call it "consent" rather than "consensus" to avoid confusion, but the dictionary definition of consensus is "gives consent". Consent is not the same as agreement or "this is what I want." Consent in this context means this appears to be the best way to move forward at this time given all the factors. One of the factors may be that most people believe it to be the best course of action. But Sociocracy does not encourage overruling objections; it encourages stating objections so they can be weighed by the group and, if possible, can result in a better, fuller decision. Sharon -- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.communityforum.net/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l
- RE: Consensus vs Majority Voting, (continued)
- RE: Consensus vs Majority Voting Rob Sandelin, July 22 2002
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Re: RE: [C-L]_Consensus vs Majority Voting Robert P. Arjet, July 17 2002
- Re: Consensus vs Majority Voting Sharon Villines, July 17 2002
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RE: Consensus vs Majority Voting cscheuer, July 16 2002
- Re: Consensus vs Majority Voting Sharon Villines, July 16 2002
- Re: Consensus vs Majority Voting Leif Weaver, July 17 2002
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RE: Consensus vs Majority Voting Fred H Olson, July 18 2002
- Re: Consensus vs Majority Voting Sharon Villines, July 18 2002
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