Re: "New" Seeking Tucson, AZ contacts/discussion | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Ronald Greek (unno_2002yahoo.com) | |
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2003 22:32:08 -0700 (MST) |
Rod, Thanks for the referral to wonderland, I'll check them out. It's just not made sense to me why the "environmental", or co-housing efforts, fall back on essentially the same design and construction methods of every other housing development. Ron G. Yuma, AZ, seeking something better for my child's future... --- RodLambert [at] aol.com wrote: > Ron, > Re. alternative designs and ways of getting built: > It is peculiar that there isn't more effort in this > direction. The primary > reason given is that it is a way of keeping costs > down thereby making it more > affordable to more people. Cohousing is almost by > definition, a rejection of the > conventional developer's methods ie spralling > suburban boxes, but not to any > extent yet, a rejection of his methods ie "you can > pick from these 4 models > only and don't ask for changes or it will cost you." > We tried a different way here at EcoVillage at > Ithaca. In the 2nd NBHD we > allowed "sweat equity" in fact several people > practically built their own house > including strawbale and timberframe. We also allowed > custom design. We used a > construction manager on an hourly basis and a "site > crew" that flexed in size > as needed. We were able to get good discounts for > materials and labor without > huge markups. It meant that there were no warranties > (although even that could > have been arranged) but the cumulative savings seems > to more then make up for > it. The average cost per sq. ft was actually lower > than the First NBHD which > was done in the "conventional" way you speak of. > This alternative method > produces a more personal NBHD although one needs to > put in more of your own energy - > its not for the person who just wants to be called > when its done. > I really think that looking in this direction is the > way to go. We have > accumulated a great deal of experience and knowledge > getting the 2nd NBHD built and > have formed a company to "take the show on the > road". In your area you might > also want to contact Wonderland. They have a lot of > experience and seem to be > well liked. They might be willing to experiment with > a less conventional > method of getting built. > > Hope this helps > > Rod > > Rod Lambert > Design Director > EcoVillage at Ithaca > 234 Rachel Carson Way, > Ithaca NY, 14850 > > 607 275 3362 > > <<Is there any interest out there for a co-housing > project, that does > not impose a standardized home design and > construction method? > > I've been wondering why I don't see such > "neighborhoods", comprised > of earthships, domes, strawbale, etc. in some sort > of mix. > > Ron G. > Yuma, AZ (But looking for the Tucson and slightly > "east" area.)>> > _______________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list > Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other > info: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L ===== Ronald Frederick Greek Yuma, Arizona, USA Attorney at Law __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list Cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Unsubscribe and other info: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L
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Re: "New" Seeking Tucson, AZ contacts/discussion RodLambert, December 18 2003
- Re: "New" Seeking Tucson, AZ contacts/discussion Ronald Greek, December 18 2003
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Re: "New" Seeking Tucson, AZ contacts/discussion Sharon Villines, December 19 2003
- Re: "New" Seeking Tucson, AZ contacts/discussion Kristin Becker, December 19 2003
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