|Wheelchair accessibility||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: White, Mary (Mary.Whitemwra.state.ma.us)|
|Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:02:33 -0800 (PST)|
Regarding Message 3 from Susana Michaelis - Wheel chair accessibility. Cornerstone Village Cohousing in Cambridge, MA is a fully accessible community. We have presently two wheelchair users and another person with handicapped parking rights, we sadly had a third wheelchair user pass away this summer. We made the commitment to have every unit visitable. This means a person in a wheel chair can enter every unit in our community and use an accessible bathroom which is on the first floor in each unit. In addition, we have an elevator in our apartment building which includes access to a personal storage unit in the basement, our recycling closet, wood working shop and a "teen room". All common spaces and rooms are accessible and our paths are also wheelchair accessible. Our common kitchen could be redesigned to be more ergonomical and accessible. Some units have customized an accessible oven which is lower, lower sink, washer/dryer - the benefits of getting into the group before the units are constructed. Our two wheelchair users at the time were in on the planning stage of our design so they were reserved the accessible units and were able to customize. Some elders independently chose the units on one level but first to join the community had first choice. Price dictated who bought what too. Our townhouses all have stairs to the upper floors, in our second building with the units called "flats" a lift is in service there. Providing accessibility is not a detriment at all, some of the accessible units are on the first floor of two separate buildings but one woman who used a wheel chair owned the four bedroom condo and stayed on the first floor while renting out her upstairs. I think the accessibility issue appealed to the older members of the community, and that made it easy for them to buy in. Yet we have had other members on crutches and any person could at any time be in need of the lift and/or elevator at any age. We are an urban dense development on one-acre of land. We have 32 units total, 6 one-bedrooms all on one level, 4 two-bedrooms that are all on one level. The steep stairs in our unit which goes to the bedrooms was one of my concerns when buying our unit and was a big drawback for me, ( I was 40 at the time when buying 3 yrs ago) but our unit has so many other positive aspects about it I decided that a lot could happen between now and then. Please go will full visitability in every unit. Could you imagine a family with a wheel chair bound child not being able to visit anyone especially other young playmates in the community because the chair couldn't get into the unit and the bathroom is not usable? After watching a video on accessibility we all unanimously voted for accessibility. No one has had to sell due to an injury or illness, people with such needs bought the units that were on one level. Except for the one young woman who used a wheel chair in a 4- bedroom who had room mates. Her room was on the first floor (Although her unit was on the third floor of our building). We never quite fully addressed the issue of evacuating her if the elevator could not be used. I would have a number of units with a range of unit sizes (more one bedrooms) with all rooms fully accessible especially if you will be providing affordable units through a city requirement as we had to. There are a lot of veterans with families returning from Iraq using wheel chairs. Our hallways in the common house do seem to be wide. One resident added a sitting room and reference library outside her unit in a larger hallway space that some of us use. It gives us an extra cozy place to look at cook books, and plan common meals. My daughter uses the atlas's and encyclopedia and such - storage can be creative. Best wishes, Mary White Cornerstone Cohousing Cambridge, MA -----Original Message----- From: mikearnott [at] juno.com [mailto:mikearnott [at] juno.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2005 6:32 AM To: White, Mary Subject: Fw: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 12, Issue 12 hi Judy --------- Forwarded message ---------- From: cohousing-l-request [at] cohousing.org To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:16:20 -0800 (PST) Subject: Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 12, Issue 12 Message-ID: <20050111111620.930824300B0 [at] leela.tigertech.net> Send Cohousing-L mailing list submissions to cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.cohousing.org/mailman/listinfo/cohousing-l or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to cohousing-l-request [at] cohousing.org You can reach the person managing the list at cohousing-l-owner [at] cohousing.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Cohousing-L digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Request for pictures: Cohousing environmentalism (Odysseus) 2. Two-Bedroom Unit for Sale at Pleasant Hill Cohousing (Susan L. Hedgpeth) 3. Wheelchair Accessibility (Pacific Gardens Cohousing Community) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 20:53:43 -0800 From: Odysseus <odysseus [at] cosmosgame.org> Subject: [C-L]_ Request for pictures: Cohousing environmentalism To: cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Message-ID: <41E20A57.3000604 [at] cosmosgame.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hello, I live at Winslow Cohousing, Bainbridge Island, Washington. I am going to be giving two talks on Community and Environmentalism. The first talk will be this Wednesday and it will be for a relatively small number of people, but then in March I will be talking to about 100 people. The basic premise of my talk is that building community and specifically cohousing is one of the most powerful things that we can do to help the environment. If you are curious, I've written up my basic ideas here: http://odysseuslevy.blogspot.com Anyways, a big part of my talk is a slide show that shows what cohousing looks like. I've got some nice pictures, but I would like to get some more. It occured to me that people on this list might have some pictures. I'm open for anything really as long as it shows how cohousing can be beneficial to the environment. Heck it might be nice if the picture just shows some nice facet of cohousing (or other intentional community). If you have anything that you are willing to share that would be great. Thanks! ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 16:19:57 -0800 From: "Susan L. Hedgpeth" <hedgpeth [at] uclink4.berkeley.edu> Subject: [C-L]_ Two-Bedroom Unit for Sale at Pleasant Hill Cohousing To: cohousing-L [at] cohousing.org Message-ID: <184.108.40.206.2.20050110161814.034dc478 [at] calmail.berkeley.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Dear cohousing list folks, Here is a notice for an available unit at our community, Pleasant Hill Cohousing, Pleasant Hill, California which is in the San Francisco Bay Area, near Walnut Creek. -Susan FOR SALE: 2-bedroom townhouse at Pleasant Hill Cohousing Pleasant Hill, California Two Bedroom / 1.5 Bath plus Closet converted to Home Office ~1200 sq.ft. two-story townhouse Bedrooms include: large closets with built-in shelves; second bedroom has additional, extensive custom built-in shelving and large desk Under-stairs closet converted to home office with 2 computer desks, built-in shelves, electrical outlet and phone jack Attic has pull down ladder and flooring for storage Maple Pergo flooring downstairs, 100% wool berber upstairs Quality appliances include gas stove, stackable high efficiency washer and dryer, etc.; ceiling fans Hydronic heating / top-of-the-line insulation & passive cooling List price: $425,000 For more information about the unit, contact Heidi at (510) 757-5418 or zelinari [at] hotmail.com. To learn more about the community, please visit our website: <http://members.aol.com/dancerBarb/aboutus.htm>http://members.aol.com/dan cerBarb/ (Sorry, some of the info is out of date.) or contact Susan Hedgpeth at (510) 642-8093 or hedgpeth [at] berkeley.edu. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 18:14:17 -0800 From: Pacific Gardens Cohousing Community <cohousing [at] pacificgardens.ca> Subject: [C-L]_ Wheelchair Accessibility To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Message-ID: <220.127.116.11.0.20050110174118.02b43300 [at] pop.pacificgardens.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello everyone, Pacific Gardens Cohousing Community is currently in the design phase, and our goal is to have 25 attached units (townhouse style) with a 5000 square foot common house central to the building. We anticipate having 3 stories, in order to minimize the footprint and preserve as much garden and natural greenspace as possible. This means some of the units will be on the ground floor, and others may have at least 2 stories. We are making critical decisions now on the layout of our units and common house amenities. We would like to make the best use of interior space in the units, so that they are efficient as well as comfortable. In general, we don't want overly large rooms and hallways when smaller ones may give more cupboards or closets and much needed storage space. Here are questions we would like feedback on: - What percentage of units should be wheelchair friendly, with wide doorways, larger bathrooms ..? - What size units should accommodate wheelchairs, 1 bedroom, 2 bedroom, 3 bedroom etc.? - How often has this been an issue in your cohousing community? Did people have to sell and move away if they became dependent on a wheelchair? - Did non wheelchair-bound people buy the specialized units, as a hedge against their possible need later in life? - Are units with stairs popular, or do they become a problem for current residents and for resale? Thanks for your valued expertise. I'm sure this challenge has been met in many different ways, so please respond with any advice you can share with us! Susana Michaelis Pacific Gardens Cohousing Community, Nanaimo BC, Canada 250-754-3060 ------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ End of Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 12, Issue 12 *******************************************
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