Re: What are optimal numbers for beginning group? | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Rob Sandelin (floriferousmsn.com) | |
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 09:57:30 -0700 (PDT) |
One thing to know is that you will have to raise a whole bunch of cash, or find a developer partner. It is not uncommon for people to have to put down the equivalent of 10% of their unit price way prior to move in. This can screen out a lot of people. There is often a fantasy in forming groups that somehow our group is going to do a multimillion dollar real estate project easily and cheaply. And it has not yet come true, almost always the first projections at how much will this cost are low, it is not uncommon for them to be 40% or more lower than the actual costs. The real costs do not become known until very late in the process, and in many forming groups this had led to some painful separations of people who were involved for sometimes several years but who have no hope of qualifying for a mortgage for the units. And along the way there will be some difficult, painful, and maybe even ugly meetings where people will fall aside as well, not to mention lots and lots of meetings that seem to go on forever, again leaving some people behind who get tired of it all, or find a simple house purchase is a better choice for them. If you have control of a site, a bank willing to give you a construction loan, and a sound financial core group of committed members you can be selective about who you decide to let design the commonhouse and limit it to equity members. If you do not have these things, then you are probably going to want to have 50% more people than you have now because many people may fall in the quest. Rob Sandelin Sharingwood Cohousing Naturalist, Writer The Environmental Science School http://www.nonprofitpages.com/nica/SVE.htm ><((((º>`·..·`·..·`·...><((((º>...·`·..·`·...><((((º>.·`·..·`·...><((((º>.·` ·..·`·...><((((º>·.. ><((((º> ·`·..·`·...·..·`><((((º>.·`·..·`·...><((((º>.·`·..·`·...><((((º>..·`·..·`·.. .><((((º>·.. ·`·..·`·....·`·..·`·...><((((º> -----Original Message----- From: Nikki Sachs [mailto:nikkisachs [at] gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 6:18 AM To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Subject: [C-L]_ What are optimal numbers for beginning group? Hi, We are just forming our group and are wondering how many people are too much for a process workshop and a design workshop? What have been other groups experiences as you form in terms of numbers of members? Is it better to have a smaller early group or not. Our project hopes to have 30 households when complete. Would that be too many people to design a common house? We have a lot of interest in our project and will have to close the group at some point (excluding some people for a while) and we are trying to figure out the best numbers for effective work. Thanks, Nikki Sachs North Oakland Cohousing _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.1/421 - Release Date: 8/16/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.1/421 - Release Date: 8/16/2006
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