Re: Cohousing values in Conventional Condos [Was: Not selecting members in a group] | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: byron patterson (byronpattersongmail.com) | |
Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:39:58 -0800 (PST) |
On 1/28/07, Byron Patterson^ byronpatterson [at] gmail.com>replyed There are truths to the writings. When shared communities are venerable to various liabilities, communities are faced with lower standards of living. Most often no one is held accountable, and victims are left isolated from legal means of resolving the matters. So often wrong individuals are accused, and held accountable for someone's mistake or wrong doing. My experience is that most property management groups are so involved in making profits, that they don't spend the time it takes to develop the enviroment for their residendcy. The other side, is most community residents don't have a clue about the economic structure of their community; depending on local, state, and federal representatives to act on their behalf, without knowledge of the situation. I have learned you have to participate, if you want changes in your community by forming proper vehicles of communication; and protect the vehicles of communication that have established. Also, community residents have to disseminating the economic structure of their community to make any changes in the communities viability or living standard. Bottomline, bring money or any other form of capital into a community is just not enough to establish a communities viability. Community residents have to continue in the their exploration of develop their community, being aware of changes that might effect their community. On 1/28/07, Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com> wrote:
On Jan 27, 2007, at 2:28 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > Shouldn't it be possible for me to find and move > into a community, a village, a neighborhood, an apartment or condo > building, or whatever, where most of the inhabitants subscribe to > certain shared values ...... Cohousing has actually moved in this direction by building larger communities and using developers who take on the burden of doing the actual building while the community finds buyers. I would also suggest that the Communities Association Institute (CAI) is the place to really work on such an effort beyond building your own community. Their research has shown that when people regard their building as a community they are happier and the building has much less turn over -- a big plus for building management. They also report that 4 out of 5 new housing units will be built in homeowner association controlled communities. My own effort in this direction is to begin writing a book that explains how to use sociocracy to govern such a beast and still promote cohousing values. All the CAI literature espouses values similar to cohousing but then gives orders to the board that reinforce an autocratic, "the Board Is King (Kong)" message. They do encourage get to know you coffees, etc. but not with many teeth. In other words, keep it manageable. Keep it board controlled. Don't serve anything homemade (danger of food poisoning and lawsuits). There have been subscribers to this list who live in conventional condos who are interested in doing what you describe. And I've lived in buildings where there was a sense of community between some residents (others removed themselves). The problem was the board who would routinely squashed things claiming that the lawyer or the insurance company wouldn't allow it. Until there is some model for governing a cohousing community with over 100 units, I think the effort to extend cohousing to the mainstream communities will not be very effective. Inclusive governance is an oxymoron to them and lawsuits loom large. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines http://www.sociocracy.info _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/
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Not selecting members in a group Robert Moskowitz, January 27 2007
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Expanding community options Rob Sandelin, January 27 2007
- Re: Expanding community options Shari Rediess, January 27 2007
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Cohousing values in Conventional Condos [Was: Not selecting members in a group] Sharon Villines, January 28 2007
- Re: Cohousing values in Conventional Condos [Was: Not selecting members in a group] byron patterson, January 28 2007
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Expanding community options Rob Sandelin, January 27 2007
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Re: Not selecting members in a group David Heimann, January 27 2007
- Re: Not selecting members in a group byron patterson, January 28 2007
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