Re: Gun ownership | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Alexander Robin A (alexande.robiuwlax.edu) | |
Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 07:41:45 -0700 (PDT) |
The issue is more complex that might first appear because there are at least three factors involved, each with many possibilities. The first is why the gun is owned and the second is how the gun is handled and stored. Assuming no criminal intent, someone might own a gun for a) self-defense, b) hunting, c) target shooting and competition, and d) decoration (as in a mounted antique). There may be others I've missed. The second is storage and handling: The gun could be stored a) off - site in a gun club locker, b) on site but in a quality locked cabinet made for the purpose, and c) just lying around. The third is attitudes about people who own guns. Some people who don't like or own guns can't imagine why anyone would want to have one unless they intended to kill or harm something or someone. As for why, I would be suspect of a and b. I don't think guns increase safety in a self-defense sense and I admit I am an avid anti-hunter (I think killing an animal for fun is murder, though I do have friends in WI who are deer hunters and I don't try to impose my views on them). I fall into category c and, mainly in my youth, had a lot of fun in a police sponsored target shooting team. I also had friends who lived on farms and we laid waste to many a might army of tin cans. There is little reason to store a gun on site unless there is no alternative, in which case a locked quality gun cabinet with a key that is well hidden may be an acceptable solution. There are a few more points I'd like to make but am spent for the time being - these will deal mostly with gun safety if any are interested. Robin Alexander ________________________________ From: Robert Heinich [mailto:robert [at] enocommons.org] Sent: Fri 4/27/2007 9:06 AM To: Cohousing-L Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Gun ownership This can be a contentious issue. We have a policy (actually it is in the covenants/bylaws) which bans operative firearms. Eight years ago, the process of re-examining the policy was started by some prospective members who owned guns and wanted to see whether we would change our policy to allow them to join. Gun policy raises core value issues with people in different ways. Most of the Northeasterners in our group were anti-gun primarily because they felt that any gun in the community would undermine their security. The Southerners and Westerners framed the issue a different way - they didn't want anyone (except the law) telling them what they could do inside their own homes. Midwesterners varied. The issue was dropped because the prospective members who raised it decided not to participate (they didn't feel welcomed) and a member had expressed her intent to block consensus. And ... oh joy ... we will revisit this issue again as we have new neighbors who do revolutionary war reenactments and have weapons from that period. They would like us to revisit this policy. (The weapons are now stored with one of the grandparents.) Issues like this are what one member coined 'community crack'. There is no right answer, bridging differences is next to impossible and has the community focusing on what separates us rather than what can bring us together. Avoid the issue if you can. -Robert Heinich Eno Commons Cohousing Durham, NC where the NYTimes today has an article on our area with photos of our members, http://travel.nytimes.com/2007/04/27/travel/escapes/27kids.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "RC Cross" <crosscuts [at] att.net> To: <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2007 10:26 PM Subject: [C-L]_ Gun ownership > Eugene Downtown Cohousing has selected a contractor and hopes to break ground > in July. Discussions continue and I have a request for comments and > information about how established communities have dealt with the question of > gun ownership. Have guns been banned completely? How are police officers, > reserve officers and permits to carry dealt with? What storage rules can be > required and how are they enforced? Any other suggestions gleaned from > experience? > > Many Thanks, R.C. Cross Eugene Downtown CoHousing _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/
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