|Re: [C-L] How to develop a group for 50+ without family||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Stuart Joseph (stuartcaercoburn.org)|
|Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 10:59:46 -0700 (PDT)|
Brian Bartholomew wrote:
Once you decide to take some land and parcel it out for homes, you have a "sub division," in my area, building attached homes would fall into another category.Marganne <marganne [at] macnexus.org> writes:In my polity, attached similar dwellings are NOT more economical thandetached homes. Once houses get close enough that they are labeled a "subdivision", there's a lot of extra stuff the city commission obligates you to build, and a huge variety of economizing approaches the city commission bans you from using, such as self-building.
Here in Rockingham VT, anyone can do their own building, and I think that there are a lot of places that allow it all over the country. Of course, you still have to meet the zoning regulations and city and state codes.
We don't have to worry about Guilds, but you do make a good point about all of the additional costs that are involved in building a house or a co-housing project.My personal estimate of the numbers in my own local situation is that in the absence of zoning, I could have built a house situation for a $60K buy-in. But in the real world with all the zoning, permitting, and guilds, the price increases to $225K.
And move to an area where everything is less. The remoter the area, or the more depressed it is, will have a bearing on what you will have to pay to build your house. Of course, you might not want to live there, either.That's almost four times more resources used. The biggest improvement you can make in affordability is to relocate out of the grasp of polities that will quadruple your costs.
The costs of a weathertight box to live in that contains a shower, stove, sink, and bed are negligible. For instance, I hear FEMA trailers are being auctioned for $700.
Where did you hear that?
Vermont does not allow a distinction between a single family home and a trailer, they are considered the same.If you were to cluster 20 of them on 20 acres, that gives you somewhere to live while the bunch of you built something nicer -- but good luck finding a polity that allows you to live this affordably.
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- Re: How to develop a group for 50+ without family, (continued)
Re: How to develop a group for 50+ without family Sharon Villines, June 28 2007
- Re: [C-L] How to develop a group for 50+ without family Seth Schneider, June 28 2007
- 50+ and affordable - self-built Marganne, June 29 2007
- Re: [C-L] How to develop a group for 50+ without family Brian Bartholomew, June 29 2007
- Re: [C-L] How to develop a group for 50+ without family Stuart Joseph, June 30 2007
- Re: [C-L] How to develop a group for 50+ without family Brian Bartholomew, June 30 2007
- Re: [C-L] How to develop a group for 50+ without family Stuart Joseph, July 2 2007
- Re: How to develop a group for 50+ without family Sharon Villines, June 28 2007
- Re: attached vs detached James Kacki, July 2 2007
- Re: attached vs detached Bonnie Fergusson, July 2 2007
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