|Re: Long term sustainability||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Sterling Newberry (sterling.newberrygmail.com)|
|Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 18:57:57 -0700 (PDT)|
Dear Ronald and Lisa, I agree that Brian's statement that Ronald "wants" a large number of people is in essence saying what his motives are without supporting evidence beyond a logical extension of his words. At the same time, in his post Ronald refers to "magical thinking" without any supporting evidence himself. Lisa goes on to say that "Eternal optimism is a great quality.....unless it serves to blind people to hard facts and keeps them from facing very real challenges in a clear headed and serious manner. We seem to be in an era of maximum 'fantasy indulgence' here in the U.S. where denial and magical thinking are epidemic." What is the fantasy indulgence you are talking about? What is your supporting evidence? I think it would be more helpful to talk about specifics than these generalities. I believe that honest people have different views of the situation facing us with regard to the limits to carbon fuel resource and to global warming. I've watched "An Inconvenient Truth" and read Lomborg's "The Sceptical Environmentalist" as well as "Is the Temperature Rising" by S. George Philander, all representing different views of these subjects. Personally, I'm not convinced that we are heading for imminent disaster. I do agree with Lisa's statement that "I am optimistic that people can be amazingly creative and resilient in the face of tremendous changes and challenges." I look upon cohousing as a grand experiment, and I think the surest way to attract more people to cohousing and other human social experiments is through 1) creating results that demonstrate you are on a successful path, and 2) being the invitation. In my own experience when people get involved because they think there is a disaster looming, they inevitably burn out unless there is a true disaster. People have been predicting that we would run out of various resources, including oil, for many years, and they've been wrong every time. I take this from Lomborg's statistics, and I'd be interested if you've read his book, and what you think of it. If his statistics and historical retelling are accurate, we are not faced with an imminent disaster, and in fact have the time for the creativity you speak of to solve our foreseeable problems. What are your thoughts? Sterling
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