language (was Re: when all our men are dead and gone) | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Susan Hedgpeth (hedgpethberkeley.edu) | |
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2008 12:44:51 -0800 (PST) |
sometimes the intent is not offensive but the effect is. i think the
subject line was meant to be humorous but in effect was rather
inflammatory. i personally had a negative reaction to it. i
appreciate the man who spoke up. i think we all need to be aware of
our language. it's an ongoing practice. i would hope that everyone
in the cohousing community wants to take care not to bash anyone and
that includes men.
Susan Hedgpeth Pleasant Hill Cohousing Northern California At 12:32 PM 2/11/2008, you wrote:
As a male, I don't feel bashed by this discussion. Nor do I think its frivolous. It sounds like a legitimate discussion of demographics that is appropriate for this list. John On Feb 11, 2008 8:37 AM, Tom Hammer <thammer302 [at] yahoo.com> wrote: > > This post sounds like male-bashing to me, in spite of the smiley face, > and I don't think it's appropriate for this list. > > How would it feel if the genders were reversed, or it were an > ethnicity or race instead of men whose lack were being celebrated? As > a male who does everything I possibly can to support women, I get very > tired of all the male bashing jokes or references to males as > "testosterone driven", etc. We men are naturally sensitive, caring, > loving, committed to the environment, intelligent, and nurturing. > Those of us who are not have been taught by our culture to be otherwise. > > Personally, I want a cohousing community with diversity, and a lack of > men or women would start me on a path of recruiting more of that gender. > > Tom Hammer > Concord Ecovillage > Chester County, PA > > If you want peace, work for justice. > > On Feb 11, 2008, at 6:16 AM, cohousing-l-request [at] cohousing.org wrote: > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 21:16:35 -0700 > > From: Christine Johnson <manzjohnson [at] netzero.net> > > Subject: [C-L]_ when all our men are dead and gone > > To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org > > Message-ID: <1CFBA58B-E0C5-4994-B8F3-F392D5AF865C [at] netzero.net> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > > > Yusuf Pisa wrote: "While demographics for each community is > > different, a large number of cohousing communties suffer from the > > "too many single old women" problem. > > > > Problem: "too many single old women" ? Can you have TOO many old > > women ? > > > > A bunch of us were sitting around talking about getting the heavy > > lifting done around here, what are are going to do when all our men > > are dead and gone? One of us remarked that it won't be long before > > the community itself is in the majority, old women. "Wow, that sounds > > fabulous" said a 30 something young woman. Personally, I agree -- I > > don't think it sounds half bad :-). > > > > Christine Johnson > > Stone Curves Cohousing > > Tucson, AZ > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > > _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/
- Elders and cohousing and kids, (continued)
- Elders and cohousing and kids Rob Sandelin, February 11 2008
- InterGenerational Cohousing [ was when all the men die (or something like that)] Sharon Villines, February 11 2008
- Re: when all our men are dead and gone Kay Argyle, February 12 2008
-
Re: when all our men are dead and gone John Faust, February 11 2008
- Message not available
- language (was Re: when all our men are dead and gone) Susan Hedgpeth, February 11 2008
Results generated by Tiger Technologies Web hosting using MHonArc.