Re: Firearms Policy
From: balaji (
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 08:26:09 -0700 (PDT)
The Utah Valley Commons, still in formation, has no policy on firearms,
and I would expect that if one develops it will simply mirror existing
state regulations.  It is unlikely that we would go further, and mandate
what someone can keep in his or her own house.  In this we may be the
exception in cohousing communities nationally.  We are, after all, Utahns,
and gun-ownership comes close to being a sacred entitlement.

Interestingly, in interviewing cohousers here and there (from India to
Ecuador, New Zealand to the United States) I find the most controversial
policy to be one regarding pets, not guns.  That's the one that seems to
get people's blood up.  For the record, the Utah Valley Commons has no
plans to regulate pet-ownership, either.  We have yet to decide, however,
on acceptable procedures for oxen and other draft animals.

With best wishes,

Charles Nuckolls
Utah Valley Commons
-- a cohousing community --
"The Sustainable Alternative to Suburban Sprawl"

> Mosaic's experience of people assuming no one in cohousing would want
> a gun is quite common - and makes for a great opportunity for
> community building.  The assumptions about what "real cohousers" are
> like easily become invisible, so it's useful to look for moments when
> they can get surfaced and cleared away in order to build a much more
> true form of community - one that actually recognizes the complicated
> real people that have decided to join together in this endeavor.
> One way to handle the unnecessary forms of controversy that can come
> up here is to use an icebreaker that accomplishes one or more of the
> following:
> - puts information in the room about the reality and variety of
> people's experience (e.g., how many people's parents or grandparents
> hunted? how many people have been hunting themselves?)
> - provides factual information about gun safety (so that the
> conversation is not skewed only toward the things that happen when
> safety is not cared for)
> - addresses the many reasons people do choose to have guns (so that
> the onus is not on any one individual to do all the educating)
> Feel free to contact me if you want more specific ideas.
>  From there, the community is much more capable of making an informed
> and collaborative decision on this matter - and more quickly than if
> the whole conversation starts in drama.  But watch out - the firearms
> conversation might not be nearly so tricky as the one about whether
> it's allowable to field dress a deer in one's limited common element.
> Diana
> Diana Kardia
> Sunward and Great Oak Cohousing Communities, Ann Arbor
> diana [at]
> On Jul 7, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Elizabeth Magill wrote:
> It was QUITE controversial at the start, because many members has
> just assumed we would not have guns, and it turned out that one of
> our members already owned one or more handguns.
> However, once the initial shock wore off, we had good discussion of
> our fears and concerns and came reasonably quickly to consensus.
> -Liz
> (The Rev.) Elizabeth M. Magill
> PastorLiz [at]
> MOsaic Commons
> Move in with us this fall! A few 2, 3, and 4BR homes are still
> waiting for a neighbor!
> On Jul 7, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Per Eisenman wrote:
>> What have different communities done about  a firearms policy?  Can
>> anyone offer any advice or examples.
>> Thanks.
>> -Per Eisenman
>> Champlain Valley Cohousing
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