Re: Firearms Policy
From: jabeutler (
Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 15:01:18 -0700 (PDT)
Liberty Village (Libertytown, MD) has no policy against guns, and I know of one 
person for sure who has a hunting rifle.  No one has complained about her gun.

The community also agreed with a bow hunter that he could hunt on our property 
last winter to reduce the deer population, but he never got around to hunting 
our "back 40" (which is more like 14 acres than 40).  The deer are a bit 
abundant and hungry this year, and have been chomping on unprotected garden 

We did, however, have a big controversy over another person's desire to have a 
milk cow.  A woman (who grew up on a dairy farm !) was seriously opposed, and 
sides were drawn.  The cow desiring person and family left, much to the 
disappointment of most all of us, and they now have at least one cow and have 
had pigs and other large animals on their own property.  We have a fair amount 
of acreage but it was hard to figure out how to properly fit in a cow.

Oxen we haven't considered (1), goats would be a hard sell.  We have chickens 
(17 hens, 1 rooster), Sharon is welcome to come out and smell them whenever she 
wants to !  The main complaint is they don't lay enough eggs.



 -------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Diana Kardia <diana [at]>
> Mosaic's experience of people assuming no one in cohousing would want  
> a gun is quite common - and makes for a great opportunity for  
> community building.  The assumptions about what "real cohousers" are  
> like easily become invisible, so it's useful to look for moments when  
> they can get surfaced and cleared away in order to build a much more  
> true form of community - one that actually recognizes the complicated  
> real people that have decided to join together in this endeavor.
> One way to handle the unnecessary forms of controversy that can come  
> up here is to use an icebreaker that accomplishes one or more of the  
> following:
> - puts information in the room about the reality and variety of  
> people's experience (e.g., how many people's parents or grandparents  
> hunted? how many people have been hunting themselves?)
> - provides factual information about gun safety (so that the  
> conversation is not skewed only toward the things that happen when  
> safety is not cared for)
> - addresses the many reasons people do choose to have guns (so that  
> the onus is not on any one individual to do all the educating)
> Feel free to contact me if you want more specific ideas.
>  From there, the community is much more capable of making an informed  
> and collaborative decision on this matter - and more quickly than if  
> the whole conversation starts in drama.  But watch out - the firearms  
> conversation might not be nearly so tricky as the one about whether  
> it's allowable to field dress a deer in one's limited common element.
> Diana
> Diana Kardia
> Sunward and Great Oak Cohousing Communities, Ann Arbor
> diana [at]
> On Jul 7, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Elizabeth Magill wrote:
> It was QUITE controversial at the start, because many members has
> just assumed we would not have guns, and it turned out that one of
> our members already owned one or more handguns.
> However, once the initial shock wore off, we had good discussion of
> our fears and concerns and came reasonably quickly to consensus.
> -Liz
> (The Rev.) Elizabeth M. Magill
> PastorLiz [at]
> MOsaic Commons
> Move in with us this fall! A few 2, 3, and 4BR homes are still
> waiting for a neighbor!
> On Jul 7, 2008, at 3:12 PM, Per Eisenman wrote:
> >
> > What have different communities done about  a firearms policy?  Can
> > anyone offer any advice or examples.
> > Thanks.
> > -Per Eisenman
> > Champlain Valley Cohousing
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