Re: hostile comment to Fort Collins newspaper article
From: Rob Sandelin (
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:35:23 -0800 (PST)
One of the things newspapers are doing to engage online readers is to open
up articles for blog like commentary.  In our local paper it brings out all
kinds of commentary, most of which I find not worth reading, although
sometimes it is amusing how people react to things. (The thread on Darwin's
Birthday went on for 15 pages).  Clearly the person making these comments
knows nothing about cohousing and is making a reaction against community
living.  This kind of stuff is to be expected and best ignored. Lots of
people are hostile to progressive ideas.

Rob Sandelin
Living in rural Snohomish County, with lots of yahoos to ignore.

-----Original Message-----
From: Muriel Kranowski [mailto:murielk [at]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 17, 2009 8:34 PM
To: Cohousing-L
Subject: [C-L]_ hostile comment to Fort Collins newspaper article

Did anyone else see the very hostile comment that a reader sent in to the
Coloradoan's version of the AP article on cohousing?  The comment was posted
earlier today (Tuesday); you can find it after the end of the article at  (bottom of
page 2)

The reader, jlbraun1, wrote:
Just where I want to live! A super-HOA where "the community" gets a say on
what goes on inside your house too! I have an interest in this topic but I
have read many many many (many!) reports of co-housing developments
disbanding because of petty infighting and feuding over things like "who
left the lawnmower out" or "you broke the communal stove, you should pay for
it!" or "your kid stole my tools!" Classic tragedy of the commons problem.

And that's not even getting into the ideological isolation that comes with
choosing to live and more-or-less exclusively associate with people that
agree with you on whatever issues you deem important - whether that's
"Christian values" or "living in harmony with Mother Earth".

Get to be friends with your neighbors. Check up on the old people. Assemble
a list of all the phone numbers on your street. Start a neighborhood watch. 
Hold a block party. You can create a wonderful tight-knit community much
more easily than this article describes.
2/17/2009 9:49:10 AM
------------ end of comment --------

Are there really cohousing communities that dictate what the inside of your
house has to be like (other than building similar units, as every developer
does as much as possible, to keep costs down), or that disbanded after
people had moved in and community life had begun because of the kinds of
interpersonal disputes given as examples?  jlbraun1's comments seem to me to
be irrationally hostile and not true to coho reality, but my knowledge base
is rather limited.

If a cohousing-l list-member with much more extensive personal experience of
coho communities than I would take the time to respond to that comment, in a
reasonable and informative style, that would be a good thing. (You'll have
to register on the Coloradoan website first, as usual.)

   Muriel Kranowski

At 11:56 AM 2/17/2009, Craig Ragland wrote:
>In Today's issue of the Fort Collins Coloradoan, you'll find an article 
>"THE PATH TO SHARED LIVING; Cohousing can be an appealing option for 
>boomers and seniors"
>Craig Ragland

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