|Re: Great moments in consensus||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: dmcfe (dmcfeaol.com)|
|Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 11:12:22 -0800 (PST)|
Hi All, It's a good thing that some sort of health care bill is moving forward, because my family sure needs it. Could this be a case of apples and oranges? Let me suggest that trying to make progress on understanding "consensus", or the type of "full consensus" process I like, by putting it in the same horserace as congressional process will keep you busy for ever. The nature of majority "power over", and the deal making that makes it go is anathema to the type of consensus process I love to see, (and have seen), happen in group work. Most fragile to maintain, too. Best and Happy Holidays, David -----Original Message----- From: David Heimann <heimann [at] theworld.com> To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Sent: Sat, Dec 26, 2009 2:18 pm Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Great moments in consensus Hi Kay, Actually, "concessions" are indeed part of gaining consensus. I know we've settled a number of difficult consensus decisions by making concessions to one or more of the dissident households. Even with concessions, however, it's still an amazing accomplishment that the Senate Democrats were able to carry out, and I'd still like to know how they were able to do it! Regards, David (David Heimann, JP Cohousing) Date: Fri, 25 Dec 2009 12:59:12 -0800 From: "Kay Wilson Fisk" <kwwilson [at] bartcommunity.org> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Great moments in consensus To: "'Cohousing-L'" <cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> Message-ID: <005f01ca85a5$1c425e10$54c71a30$@org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" How did they do it? I think it's called "concessions" - like the senator from ND who got a big tax break for his constituents written into the bill in exchange for his vote (while the other 49 states pay their share). I'm not sure this is going to work for cohousing. Kay Bartimaeus Cohousing -----Original Message----- From: cohousing-l-bounces+kwwilson=bartcommunity.org [at] cohousing.org [mailto:cohousing-l-bounces+kwwilson=bartcommunity.org [at] cohousing.org] On Behalf Of David Heimann Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2009 6:35 PM To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Subject: [C-L]_ Great moments in consensus Hello Everyone, Congratulations to the Senate Democrats! Just think of the some of the controversial issues cohousers have to deal with. We have more than enough difficulty getting some 12 (small) to 40 (large) households to consensus, where we have far more basic agreement to start with than did the Senate Democrats. They needed to get 60 people to consensus on a set of far more controversial issues than we've ever had to face. Someone needs to write up their story for inspiration to cohousing groups everywhere! Bemusing on "how in the world did they do it", David *-- "I Make Numbers Talk"* _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ ------------------------------ _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ End of Cohousing-L Digest, Vol 71, Issue 18 ******************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/
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