Re: Bad tenant alert
From: Holly McNutt (
Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2011 10:01:24 -0700 (PDT)
Golly, I hate hearing these stories.  As a landlord and property manager, I am 
so careful, and I have been lucky to have only 2 or 3 really bad ones among the 
hundreds of tenants I have dealt with.  Not only do I check current and former 
landlord, I check current and former employers as well.  It is good to speak 
with at least 3 references.  But anyone who really wants to scam you can make 
up references who will vouch for them, so it ain't a perfect system.  

In all fairness to L&J, there are 2 sides to every story, and I haven't heard 
theirs from them, only the side of the woman they have moved in with, and she 
is very much up in arms and her comments that were quoted in Fred's email may 
not be 100% accurate.  Nevertheless, it's a bad situation and I think they will 
be moving on shortly.

- h

On Mar 13, 2011, at 10:52 AM, Ann Zabaldo wrote:

> Hi all --
> I agree w/ Sharon.  Don't be intimated but be aware.  I was a landlord 
> (lady?)  for a very short time w/ a rental property in DC.  It took a lawyer 
> and 9 months to evict a family that was trashing my house.  More than 10K in 
> damages -- but they had "rights" under DC law. I had to go to court to get an 
> order.  The 9 months to eviction was considered FAST by DC standards. (?)    
> After that ... I fixed the house and sold it.  Had I tried to get the woman 
> to leave she would have sued me and won.  Soooo ... make sure you know what 
> your rights are as a landlord and go for whatever remedy is available to you.
> BTW -- she came w/ STELLAR recommendations by her former "landlords" whom I 
> came to suspect were her friends.
> Best --
> Ann Zabaldo
> Takoma Village Cohousing
> Washington, DC
> Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
> Falls Church VA
> 703 663 3911
> On Mar 13, 2011, at 12:35 PM, Sharon Villines wrote:
>> On 13 Mar 2011, at 12:12 PM, Holly McNutt wrote:
>>> house-share situation. They are only 2 weeks into this and already major 
>>> problems have ensued.  As  Board member, I got an email from her explaining 
>>> the situation just to keep us in the loop, and that is when I made the 
>>> connection that this is the same family I read about here.  Oh, dear.  
>> Be very aware of your rental laws. Tenants in many states have incredible 
>> rights. It is to protect them against unscrupulous landlords, usually in 
>> situations where they are renting whole units — leasing. But the laws can 
>> also apply to people renting rooms or sharing an apartment. 
>> You may not be able to require them to move out and they can take legal 
>> action against you if you do anything that can be interpreted as violating 
>> their rights. So you need to know what their rights are.
>> I agree with a previous post that people shouldn't be intimidated by 
>> legalities but you need to understand them and that they apply to you. In 
>> our community we were unaware that any of these laws applied when renting a 
>> room and sharing the kitchen. In DC, they do. All states are different.
>> And there are people who make causing trouble the focus of their lives. They 
>> get energy from it. I recently read that this is one technique that people 
>> with ADD use to structure their lack of ability to maintain focus. They 
>> often believe that they are doing something constructive, like protecting 
>> their own rights or the rights of others.
>> Sharon
>> ----
>> Sharon Villines
>> "Reality is something you rise above." Liza Minnelli
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