|Re: Paying coho members for professional services||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Moz (listmoz.geek.nz)|
|Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:35:34 -0800 (PST)|
Melanie said: > Do professionals and craftspeople living in community (architects, > plumbers, realtors, lawyers, etc) with relevant skills think their > contributions are overvalued or undervalued Often. But there's a skill of stepping back from yourself and letting the group balance "the expert" against what they want. Also, when it's Moz-the-member, the group as a whole have decided not to ask for my expert advice, let alone be bound by it. > ... Do you step back from those decisions, or lend your expertise? I find it quite hard to step back and do all the prep work to give a real expert opinion when I'm caught up in the group process. Going through the process requires me to create the professional distance so I can separate what I want from the specific angle that my expertise is being asked to address. If I'm wearing my electrical engineer hat, they're not asking me about group processes or lifecycle environmental impacts, they want to know how much work is required to tie 20kW of PV into the street. At a legal-professional level, most professional liability insurance requires you to be paid and have a contract or it doesn't apply. As a group member you don't have that. So you either need to set up the prerequisites to give expert advice as an expert, or you're really not acting as an expert. Flip side: I try to work my expertise in, and really, my opinions are so tied up with my expertise that asking me not to use it to form them is unreasonable. On one level, my university degrees amount to certification that "this guy can remember what he's heard and think about it in a systematic way". Asking me not to do that is asking me not to participate at all. I also do a bit of facilitation work around acknowleging expertise, and trying to shift the group towards a way of operating that accepts and values different people's special knowledge. It's hard, there is a lot of postmodernism and relativism informing people's ideas these days. Part of it is switching the group from "consensus decision making and working to hear and include everyone" to "the expert will tell us the one true way and we will obey", and back. This is actually easier when you're paying the expert and they're an outsider. Moz  yes, I have a humanities degree. Also an engineering degree. I find the combination amusing.
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