Re: Documents v. Reality
From: Mary Ann Clark (
Date: Wed, 1 Feb 2012 08:51:29 -0800 (PST)
Several years ago (2006) when the state laws governing HOAs changed we at 
Manzanita Village in Arizona worked with a lawyer who specialized in that sort 
of work to revise our CC&Rs and By-Laws to bring them into compliance with the 
new laws. 

In general, our CC&Rs and By-Laws don't vary significantly from the standard 
except that we included verbiage that we were also governed by a third 
document, our policy and procedure manual known as the Villager Guide. The 
Villagers Guide has all the cohousing-ish policies and procedures and is 
relatively easy to change via consensus of the community. 

This gave us a "three-legged stool" for governance that has worked very well 
for us. It was important to include the information about the Villagers Guide 
into the other documents and to state explicitly that when the documents 
disagree which one take precedence (generally the Villagers Guide).

Mary Ann

On Feb 1, 2012, at 9:33 AM, Holly McNutt wrote:

> Here at Nyland our Board of Directors, on which I serve, is looking into 
> revising our governing docs (CC&R's and Bylaws) to more accurately reflect 
> the agreements we truly live by.  In a nutshell, the docs are pretty much 
> standard issue HOA variety, which helps people get mortgages and such, and 
> the community agreements are more "cohousing-ish."  This has worked for 20 
> years now, but some people feel they really ought to be more in line.  I find 
> myself in the "let's not revise" camp because it looks like an awfully big 
> job and I am not sure how changes away from the HOA norm might affect future 
> financing options.  I like the idea of greater consistency,  but wonder if 
> it's worth it, or even possible since there are areas where we don't even 
> really HAVE firm agreements. Has anyone else dealt with this?  
> Thanks,
> Holly
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