Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Joanie Connors (jvcphdgmail.com) | |
Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:35:15 -0700 (PDT) |
Some years ago I saw an exit sign made of colored neon tubing. It was a pleasant looking rosy red glowing "exit" in cursive. I googled this, but could not find one in several pages of images, so perhaps they are not accepted now. You might call a neon sign business and see what they would cost. Assuming this would be too costly, you might call a graphic artist and see what they would charge for custom signs. Or even cheaper, an inventive person with a laptop could try different fonts to find an effect you like and have them printed and laminated. On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 9:16 AM, Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com> wrote: > > > On 11 Mar 2012, at 7:06 AM, R Philip Dowds wrote: > >> Not quite sure what actually happened here, but in general the "systems >> people" do not really come in after the architects are "finished". In terms >> of both design logic and construction sequence, a building is an integrated >> assembly, and … > > You know that and I know that, but…… > > For developing communities, this is one of the reasons you want to > limit/eliminate customization. The whole process is so complex and so many > different people are involved that you don't want to do anything to make it > more complex. > >> Did you put the design out for competitive bid ... and then take the low >> bidder? > > We had a developer. We had a Design Team. The architect blamed the > construction contractor and the construction contract blamed the architect. > The developer was new to cohousing and subsequently has developed other > communities more successfully in terms of the structural stuff. > > One thing that might be helpful to new communities — the process of advising > back and forth on new technologies and new ways of doing things can throw > everyone off base because each one can trust that the other one knows what > they are doing. People accept new ideas that they can't themselves confirm, > but the fact that they are accepted feels like confirmation. It's a hard > process to do something sort of new but not exactly. > >> \Exit signs are not optional, they are required by the egress and life >> safety codes. Some signs are more elegant than others. > > What I'm looking for are the "more elegant" ones. What is exactly required? > Everyone seems to be showing exactly the same signs. Is the standard height > and width required everywhere? > >> * At Cornerstone, client/architect disputes forced the founders to change >> architects in mid-stream. And extreme litigation and permitting expenses >> swallowed up a lot of money, compelling design compromises and selection of >> a low-bidder contractor. There were consequences. > > This sank a community in Florida. The architect came in 2 years late with > designs that were woefully wrong, just wrong. Doors that couldn't be opened > because there were walls on the other side was the the worst. Then the > engineers looked at it and said it would cost billions to construct because > it would require steel beams — in a two story structure because he had > specified hurricane-proof blocks to be used to make cupolas on top of the > buildings Victorian Key West style. > > The architect wanted another $20,000 or something like that to fix the plans. > Which would mean more engineering costs. > > GOOD ADVICE from Gilda Iriarte who used to do the financial stuff for the > Cohousing Company. Ask bankers for referrals to architects, developers, etc. > Because they are on the money end of things and see projects succeed and fail > everyday, they know who consistently brings in projects on time and within > budget. Interview bankers. > > Sharon > ---- > Sharon Villines > Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC > http://www.takomavillage.org > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > >
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things, (continued)
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Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Kay Wilson Fisk, March 10 2012
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Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Sharon Villines, March 10 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things R Philip Dowds, March 11 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Sharon Villines, March 11 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Joanie Connors, March 11 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Oz, March 11 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Bryan Bowen, March 12 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Sharon Villines, March 13 2012
- Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Dane Laverty, March 12 2012
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Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Sharon Villines, March 10 2012
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Re: Exit Signs and Other Ugly Things Kay Wilson Fisk, March 10 2012
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