Re: Agreements to reshare financial burden (was: Per Household or per person?) | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 08:14:32 -0700 (PDT) |
> Our individuals of course did form a corporation (LLC), but the lender knew > it wasn't a "real" company...they (wisely, I guess) required the > individuals in the corporation (us) to sign personal guaranties before > they'd give us our loan, so any money the project doesn't pay back comes > out of the pockets of the LLC members. This comment is not directed at any specific community -- many of us have operated on the premise that legal documents are for the bank or the lawyers, not for "us." This is intended for forming and new communities. Assuming that legal documents are not "real" is one of the wrong paths that cohousing has taken. Legal documents are real. When push comes to shove, calamity to calamity, they will be enforced by outside agencies if not inside agencies. As time goes by and new people join the group, before move in and after, the newer members don't have the same informal expectations because they weren't part of those earlier bonding discussions. As time goes by new members are taking less risk and have less understanding of how hard it was to get started. They are unaware of the fingers hanging off the edge of the cliff for sometimes years. One resident who moved in a few years after we moved in, at the height of the housing market, said, "You guys got a free ride and cheap prices." Another who moved in 2-3 years ago said, "We aren't all in this together. We are owners in a condominium. All our situations are different." New people are given the condominium declaration, bylaws, and the policies before they move in. Their purchase is considered acceptance of those documents. Nothing else. I don't know how to re-create for new residents the bonding of those early years, but without it, the community and individual homeowners are dependent on good will and legal documents. And good will is in the eye of the beholder. We've been very lucky since we don't have an extensive pre-move in orientation process. Everyone who has moved in has been more involved that those who moved out. But that isn't always saying much -- some of the people who moved out were fairly uninvolved. What I would like to hear about are ways of repeating that early bonding without creating a crisis. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
- Re: Agreements to reshare financial burden (was: Per Household or per person?), (continued)
- Re: Agreements to reshare financial burden (was: Per Household or per person?) Elizabeth Magill, March 19 2013
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Re: Agreements to reshare financial burden (was: Per Household or per person?) Diana Carroll, March 20 2013
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Re: Agreements to reshare financial burden (was: Per Household or per person?) Sharon Villines, March 20 2013
- Re: Agreements to reshare financial burden (was: Per Household or per person?) Diana Carroll, March 20 2013
- Re: Agreements to reshare financial burden (was: Per Household or per person?) Sharon Villines, March 20 2013
- Re: Agreements to reshare financial burden (was: Per Household or per person?) Diana Carroll, March 20 2013
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Re: Agreements to reshare financial burden (was: Per Household or per person?) Sharon Villines, March 20 2013
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