Re: We ditched consensus
From: Diana Carroll (
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2013 10:43:50 -0700 (PDT)
What a fascinating system.  How long have you been doing this?  Have you
resolved any particularly difficult decisions this way?  How does it seem
to be working, both logistically and in terms of community health?

Is this just for plenary decisions? How does this affect the decision
making of individual teams?

What happens if you have a majority but not super majority?  Doesn't that
mean that the "minority" effectively won and the result that was less
popular is the one selected?  (Since to reject a proposal ipso facto means
accepting the converse of the proposal)

The idea of the automated agenda is revolutionary!

On Thursday, September 12, 2013, Sean Davey wrote:

> just a minor correction, our new system uses super majority voting, 2/3
> yes votes are required to pass.
> We use the same process that we used before for working on a decision:
> 1) answer clarifying questions, 2) collect concerns, 3) group concerns, 4)
> attempt to resolve concerns.
> We've also automated agenda building online: proposals can be submitted by
> anyone, once 12 people
> agree to discuss an issue it is moved to a list of agenda items, everyone
> can prioritize agenda items
> and for each meeting the agenda is automatically generated based on
> everyone's priority ranking.
> if you asked each person in our community why consensus wasn't working,
> you'd get a different answer
> from each person. (not everyone thought it wasn't working, a small number
> wanted to stay with it)
> for me, a lot of what we were experiencing is covered in Diana Leafe
> Christian's article:
> sean, sonora cohousing
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In case my previous message wasn't understood:  Majority rule is now the
> method of decision making  at our general meetings, instead of consensus
> (with a majority rule back-up), which is how we'd operated before.
> >
> > I will send in the near future something with more details, since I know
> that many communities are struggling, and our experience might be of use.
> >
> > Best,
> > Racheli, Sonora Cohousing,
> > Tucson, Arizona.
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