Re: Private home dishwashers: 18" vs 24"
From: Ingram Paperny (
Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2013 12:40:00 -0700 (PDT)
 Grace, In your dishwashing posting, you mentioned "  boat like" what about
"boats"? I am looking into abandoned un sea worthy but livable fibere glass
cruisers 34'x 12'Either on a cradle or partially buried. I believe some
might be available for the cost of transport, from the gulf coast to up
state NY about $6000 dollars. Fully equipped (probably w/o dishwasher)
circling around a mother ship (AKA common house) Ingram Paperny Shaker Mill

-----Original Message-----
From: Grace Kim [mailto:grace [at]] 
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 3:02 PM
To: cohousing-l [at]
Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Private home dishwashers: 18" vs 24"

As another architect in the fray, I thought I'd add my 5cents.

I have designed a few cohousing communities, but more importantly numerous
renovations for multifamily projects.

While I'm a staunch supporter of living more compact and efficient boat-like
designs, I would advise you to seriously consider the 24" dishwasher as it
is a more standard (read readily available and cost effective) size.
There are typically only 1-2 options for any of the smaller
appliances...which translates to higher cost for replacement (and sometimes
delay in ordering).
If you are consciously making a decision to downsize for your own personal
unit, that's fine.  But I think it is unwise to saddle future homeowners
with that decision.

grace h. kim | schemata workshop inc.
aia, principal architect


> Our architect, Charles Durrett (extensive cohousing experience) recommends
an 18" unit however our developers/project managers (extensive small strata
development experience but no cohousing experience) say 18" is too small and
to install 24" units.
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