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|From: William C. Wood (woodwcgmail.com)|
|Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 11:54:40 -0700 (PDT)|
Just a few related questions about the possibility of a studio as small as 410 sf:
1. Is there a good archive of cohousing floor plans somewhere out there in the public domain? 2. Have you ever heard of connecting a modest number of individual units to the common house through something like an 8 x 8 three-season, acoustically isolating, porch on each unit? 3. And, just speculating, if you could add that 8 x 8 space to a 410 sf space, would that significantly alleviate the size concern for such a small studio?
(from someone at the *very early* design stages of a *potential* project) Bill -- William C. Wood woodwc [at] gmail.com http://williamcwood.com Message: 6 Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:12:38 -0400 From: Sharon Villines<sharon [at] sharonvillines.com> Subject: [C-L]_ Unit SF [was Private home dishwasher: 18 vs 24 inch To: Cohousing-L<cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> Message-ID:<F149F371-4B86-4BD7-B567-DAE7BBBE2AAF [at] sharonvillines.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Oct 22, 2013, at 5:08 PM, Taryn Leigh<taryn_leigh [at] hotmail.com> wrote:
Studios: 410 SF One bedrooms: 510 SF
These are extremely small. Have you lived in units this small? Consider that this includes the walls, bathroom, kitchen, and closets. A 20' by 20' room becomes very small when you begin extracting those from it. The 510 SF would be much more spacious feeling as a studio. Our best floor plan and most flexible apartment is 625 SF with a bedroom and a den/dining room. I've lived in a 500 SF studio. With one person it was nice but claustrophobic when I was working at home. I did not have room for both a desk and a dining room table. Windows on one side. With a bedroom, one room would have no windows. A 600 SF studio was significantly more livable. Assume ~150 SF for the bathroom, kitchen, and storage. 410 SF would be 260 SF of open floor space. A 610 SF studio would have 460 SF of open space. 40% more even though it is only 30% larger. My daughter had an apartment in Manhattan built before WWII that had a ~25 SF bathroom. The toilet faced the sink just inside the door. The door was about half the size of an accessible door. Even my thin daughter had to enter sideways. Once inside you could sit or stand, or step sideways into the ~4' tub. There was ~4 SF of floor space and some of that was under the sink. No storage. It had beautiful fixtures in aquamarine and was tiled very nicely. The tile was in perfect condition after 60+ years. It was good construction, well designed. Not an alteration. That apartment was 450 SF. The kitchen was behind a narrow counter. The bed was a futon couch. I'm all for small apartments but they can only get so small unless you live in a city where people tend to eat out and entertain out. Their unit is a hotel room.
Re: Unit SF [was Private home dishwasher: 18 vs 24 inch} William C. Wood, October 24 2013
Re: Unit SF [was Private home dishwasher: 18 vs 24 inch} R Philip Dowds, October 25 2013
- Re: Unit SF [was Private home dishwasher: 18 vs 24 inch} Chris ScottHanson, October 25 2013
- Re: Unit SF [was Private home dishwasher: 18 vs 24 inch} Sharon Villines, October 25 2013
- Re: Unit SF [was Private home dishwasher: 18 vs 24 inch} R Philip Dowds, October 25 2013
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