Re: Icy parking lots
From: Eris Weaver (eriserisweaver.info)
Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 08:42:23 -0800 (PST)
Could you East Coast folks send your extra snow to us in California, where we 
are having a drought? (Please don't hate us for still wearing shorts & tshirts 
in January!) 

:-)

(typed on my tablet's teeny keyboard, so please excuse any typos)
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Eris Weaver, Facilitator & Group Process Consultant
eris [at] erisweaver.info
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> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 07:12:43 -0600 (CST)
> From: Fred-List manager <fholson [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Icy parking lots and walk and driveways
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> Re: icy parking lots
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> We try to clear snow ASAP to prevent ice development.   This year we
> are trying out coarse sand (fine sand isn't satisfactory).  Cat litter
> can be useful but is more expensive.
> 
> We do not use salt because it is hard on plants and we don't want to
> increase salinity in the ground and ground water.
> 
> In western Washington we don't have much freezing weather. But after
> slipping and getting a concussion a few years ago, I keep my trusty
> Yak Traks handy.
> 
> Anne from Winslow Cohousing
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> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 07:50:39 -0600 (CST)
> From: Fred H Olson <fholson [at] cohousing.org>
> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Icy parking lots and walk and driveways
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> Anne <aynabet3 [at] gmail.com> wrote (via Fred) :
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>> We try to clear snow ASAP to prevent ice development.
> 
> I'd like to second that.  I try to clear snow before it has been
> walked or driven on. Packed snow is much harder to remove and becomes
> ice like.  Sometimes someone walks by before I can get it cleared but
> in cohousing there could be an agreement that all reasonable efforts
> will be made to clear a path before walking on snow.
> 
> Often I do not clear snow completely at first, just one shovel
> width gives room to walk without walking on snow.  I use a "push"
> shovel whenever the depth allows.  Sometimes the big pile that
> accumulated ahead of the push shovel does not get scooped away
> initially. In that case an adjacent one shovel path is started
> beside the pile.  I keep a bunch of shovels (used / repaired
> from yard sales) at various places so there is one handy when
> needed.
> 
> Later when time permits I clean up and widen the initial effort.
> 
> I keep a sand/salt mixture in buckets at two ends of our lot
> that I use very sparingly when needed.
> 
> In cohousing there could be an agreement to cooperate with a
> similar system:
> 1) avoid packing new snow
> 2) shovel a minimal path if you are the first one after new snow
> 
> "Shovel parties" would also be possible.
> I see some of my neighbors while shoveling that I would see less or
> not at all in the winter.  We try to visit a bit at breaks.
> 
> Fred who does not live in cohousing but faces some of the same issues
>  on our friendly block in Minneapolis where we have had a lot of
>  small snowfalls this year and now frigid weather.
> 
> --
> Fred H. Olson  Minneapolis,MN 55411  USA        (near north Mpls)
>     Email:        fholson at cohousing.org      612-588-9532
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