Re: Exterior modifications | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 06:35:10 -0800 (PST) |
On Feb 17, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Diana Carroll <dianaecarroll [at] gmail.com> wrote: > I was thinking it would be more legally enforceable to have a document for > each agreed upon modification. I imagine 20 years down the road, after > three resales, a new owner might have no idea what aspects of their > property are "modifications" vs. original. Worst case, imagine a home is > foreclosed on, and now a *bank* is the owner...I need a way to say to the > bank "The deck on unit 42 is collapsing, you need to fix it." In addition to Philip's points about ownership & the exterior envelope, there are other issues. If someone builds a deck over an area that is a Common Element, thus converting it to a Limited Common Space, that should also be recorded as well. All exterior modifications should be reviewed according to a policy that is binding. Who reviews the design? Who gets the building permits or ensured that they were obtained? Who maintains the deck? According to what standards? Are safe design standards maintained? Does it meet the standards of your liability insurance? Or the owner's? It has to be in writing. People move in and out and memories change. People who are good friends this year might not be speaking to each other in 10. People make different assumptions about what was agreed to and what was hoped for. In 2000, many of us bristled at the thought of the "condo commandos" who enforced bylaws and levied fines. Cringed at condos that were designed cookie cutter style with rules for what could be stored or used on a balcony. In 2014, I understand that those designs and rules would have made our lives much, much easier. We spend hours and hours and days and days discussing what to do with people who use their exterior spaces like basements, not personal seating areas. Debating what is a Limited Common Element and what is not. Objecting to an owner changing an exterior light fixtures to a design that is not in keeping with the architecture. "It's just a light. Who cares? It's good because we don't have to pay for it." Since like most cohousing communities we have many unit styles all mixed up together, each case is unique. In the end, when the complexity affects more than our desire not to be cookie cutter, it isn't worth the number of individual decisions that have to be made. My advice is to contact the local chapter of the Community Associations Institute and discuss these issues with people who have experienced similar situations and can share their stories of problems and repercussions. They are likely to be more rigid and paranoid than you might want to be but it will give you a better sense of what the local laws require and assume. For example, the condo law in DC is written with many default positions -- "Unless otherwise stated in the Bylaws, the owner is responsible for this and the association for this." If you don't have clear documents, you will be subject to those laws. I think it was 5 or 6 years in before we even read them!!!! Because we were cohousing and we were going to do things our way. We've never had a problem that invoked a condo law default but there are several places where owners could require things we don't do. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines, Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC "I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day.” ― E.B. White
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Exterior modifications Diana Carroll, February 17 2014
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Re: Exterior modifications S. Kashdan, February 17 2014
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Re: Exterior modifications Diana Carroll, February 17 2014
- Re: Exterior modifications Sharon Villines, February 18 2014
- Re: Exterior modifications Mariana Almeida, February 18 2014
- Re: Exterior modifications Diana Carroll, February 18 2014
- Common vs Limited Common Elements [was Exterior modifications Sharon Villines, February 19 2014
- Re: Common vs Limited Common Elements [was Exterior modifications Diana Carroll, February 19 2014
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Re: Exterior modifications Diana Carroll, February 17 2014
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Re: Exterior modifications S. Kashdan, February 17 2014
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