|Re: Development budget (broad strokes)||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Sharon Villines (sharonsharonvillines.com)|
|Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 07:55:07 -0800 (PST)|
A good post. This is the best advertising for you. You have considered revising The Cohousing Handbook? Sharon. > On Feb 5, 2015, at 1:16 PM, Chris ScottHanson <cscotthanson [at] mac.com> > wrote: > > > Peter, and Sharon, > > I rarely disagree with Sharon but I do here. > > I have found that banks are not a good source of referrals to local > development professionals. It's very hard to find the right person at the > bank. No one wants to refer you up the food chain because they all want > credit for a new client. They are inclined to sell you their loan product > and in doing so they are only inclined to tell you what they think you want > to hear. In other words they often don't tell you the whole truth as you > might see the truth. > > When I parachute into a new location doing land search work, which I have > done all over North America, I start with a local lumberyard. Why a > lumberyard? Objectivity. I ask to speak to the accounts receivable person. > Then I ask the A-R person if they can recommend a couple of really good > contractors, their best clients, contractors who buy a lot and pay on time. > Contractors who survived the recession. They are very happy to share these > referrals to their best customers because it helps their business long-term. > I do this with at least two lumberyards. > > Then I call the contractors on the shortlist and ask for their referrals to > local housing developers who have been successful, and have been in business > for a long time. While I'm at it, I also ask if they could recommend any > architects, especially old-time architects who may have just retired. I find > old time architects are the most honest and candid of the development > industry professionals, the most willing to tell it like it is, and the most > willing to tell stories about who is good, who is marginal and who avoid. > > Always when doing this kind of research I look for overlap, referrals to the > same person or same organization from more than one source. It's amazing what > you can figure out over the phone in a matter of a few hours. Of course it > does help that I can speak their language after 39 years in the multi-family > housing industry. > > Boston and north, you might try: > Patti Lautner or Stew Mayer, (508) 962-4721 > Partners at, Communitas Development <http://communitasdevelopment.com/who/> > Bill Glasser (781) 376-1801 (multifamily contractor who built JP Cohousing) > Tim McHale (617) 797-1129 (very experienced clerk of the works) > > If I can be of help let me know. > > Chris ScottHanson > Urban Cohousing Associates, Inc. <http://www.urbancohousingassociates.com/> > Land Acquisition, Development Consulting & Project Management > Ecovillages, Cohousing & Sustainable Communities > > Fifth Street Commons <http://fifthstreetcommons.com/> > PO Box 1288 > Langley, WA 98260 > > (206) 601-7802 cell > > Author of: The Cohousing Handbook - BUILDING A PLACE FOR COMMUNITY > Available from Amazon.com new, used and as an eBook. > >> On Feb 5, 2015, at 9:28 AM, Sharon Villines <sharon [at] sharonvillines.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> >>> On Feb 5, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Peter Goldstein <peterhansgoldstein [at] >>> gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> For purposes of member assessments, and communication with the governments >>> of our target towns, we'll need a little more detail on project budget. But >>> a truly detailed budget (which would depend on plenty of unknowable >>> variables) would be a developer project, and we're far from decided on what >>> developer we'll work with. >> >> There are several budgets in a publication put together by the Mid Atlantic >> Cohousing association, The Developer's Guide to Cohousing. >> >> Contact Ann Zabaldo at zabaldo [at] earthlink.net >> >> On developers and budgets, advise from Gilda Iriarti who worked with >> cohousing on budgets for many years your best source for a developer is to >> talk to banks -- the person in charge of construction loans. They know who >> is trustworthy, and who will bring the project in on time and within the >> budget. >> >> As with all discussions with banks -- you are asking them to finance a condo >> -- not a weird place where people have to cook. Just discuss construction >> and land unless they seem interested in cohousing. Don't try to sell >> something they are unfamiliar with. >> >> Sharon >> ---- >> Sharon Villines >> Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC >> http://www.takomavillage.org >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > >
Development budget (broad strokes) Peter Goldstein, February 5 2015
- Re: Development budget (broad strokes) Sharon Villines, February 5 2015
- Re: Development budget (broad strokes) Ann Zabaldo, February 5 2015
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