|Re: The Future of Cohousing-L mailing list||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Alice Alexander (alicecohousgmail.com)|
|Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 04:31:54 -0800 (PST)|
I appreciate Katie's comments, and celebrate Fred's amazing service for over two decades to establish and maintain coho-l. Coho/US exists to nurture and grow cohousing, and coho-l is an integral part, so keeping this list serve strong and vibrant supports our agenda. Additionally: Coho/US serves the *community* of cohousing; we are part and parcel of that community. So the premise that coho-l be a community service fits into that scenario. Finally: I hope coho-l readers will appreciate that Coho/US is now a stable and strong organization, and as such could play a foundational role in maintaining the coho-l list serve. As Katie contributes her $.02 so do I! Since ultimately the future of coho-l is a community decision. That's what we "do" in cohousing after all. I look forward to more conversation here and at the conference - and hope all readers will consider joining us www.cohouing.org/2015conference Alice Alexander, Coho/US Executive Director On Fri, Feb 20, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Kathryn McCamant < kmccamant [at] cohousing-solutions.com> wrote: > > Dear Fred...good idea! Glad you are taking this initiative. The conference > will be a great place to continue the conversation. > > But I did want to question your assumption that CoHousing-L needs to be a > separate entity from the CoHousing Association. Personally, I see the > Association as the key link that ties us all together...and the umbrella > by which all the volunteer efforts that make this a movement more than > just a bunch of individual projects. To me, it makes total sense that > Cohousing-L exist as part of the Association. In recent years, I suspect > that most people find you thru the association website. I think formally > combining your efforts with the Association would be one way to secure > Coho-L's long term existence...whatever happens to any one of us along > life's road. Each of us do more or less depending on what else is going on > in our lives, but so far, the Association has continued and offers a great > format to bring in new energy as us old timers grow weary, move on, or > eventually die off. I think the Association needs all of our support and > encouragement, and the more of our volunteer efforts are done under the > umbrella of the Association, the strong both the Association is as well as > the cohousing movement. > > Just my 2 cents (without any discussion with anyone CohoUS). Feel free to > share my comments as you see fit. > > In community and with the utmost respect for you ongoing contribution to > the national and international cohousing discussion, > > > Katie > > -- > Kathryn McCamant, President > CoHousing Solutions > 241B Commercial Street > Nevada City, CA 95959 > T.530.478.1970 C.916.798.4755 > www.cohousing-solutions.com > > > > > > > > On 2/20/15 9:54 AM, "Fred H Olson" <fholson [at] cohousing.org> wrote: > > > > >I have managed Cohousing-L for over 21 years now, but WHAT IF I CROAK? > > > >Someday I will no longer be able to manage the list. NOT ANY TIME SOON > >but someday someone else will need to take over managing Cohousing-L. > >I expect to continue managing the list for a good long time yet. > > > >But life is unpredicatable; it seems like it would be wise to have a > >contingency plan for succession of a manager. > > > >There will be a session at the conference, currently scheduled for 4pm > >Friday -- "Cohousing-L Email Group: Looking to the Future " where we can > >discuss this (and other list related topics) but I wanted to start the > >discussion here. ( Conf. page: http://cohousing.org/2015conference ) > >My 68th birthday is during the Cohousing conference in North Carolina > >in May which I will be attending for the first time since 1997. > > > >I frequently get thanks for managing a useful and civil discussion > >free of ads and distractions. Such appreciation helps keep me at it. > >There are occasional lulls in the discussion. ( There were very few > >messages for about 4 weeks around last Thanksgiving. I was starting to > >wonder if we had discussed everything :) Then it gets busy like the > >last week or two... We suffer from 'feast or famine'. > > > >For now I presume this online discussion will continue to be useful > >indefinitely. I and a number of people feel strongly that Cohousing-L > >should continue to be independent of Coho/US. > > > >With few exceptions it has been just me behind the scenes "managing" > >cohousing-L. The software is maintained by a great ISP (Tigertech in > >Calif. http://justcomm.org/#tigertech ) and their tech support is also > >great. > > > >My suggestion is that we establish and maintain a small "post-Fred > >advisory group" of people with the interest and some expertise that > >would agree to make arrangements for the list to continue when I can > >no longer do so. The group's responsibilities would be: > >o maintain contact with each other and with Fred over the long run > >o recruiting someone to take over management tasks when needed. > > Fortunately the list would continue to run unattended for a while > > (tho some messages would not be distributed due to filters that > > keep the "quality" high). > >o Arranging to pay the ISP ( currently I do that annually - it is only > > $75/year. ) > > > >If you are interested in being on such an advisory group or would > >consider managing the list someday please feel free to reply to Fred > >off list. There is a summary of tasks involved in managing cohousing-L > >at end of this message. > > > >Probably the key thing about managing the list (and an advisory group) > >is the long term nature of it. Management tasks are usually not a big > >task, typically a few minutes EVERY DAY and it goes on for years. > >Fortunately it fits into my life easily. > > > >It would be desireable to have people on an advisory group who are > >committed for years until they are needed. They would have have > >little to do til I croak. Ideally some advisors would be younger - say > >under 50 ... > > > >Fred ( below: Summary of tasks involved in managing cohousing-L ) > > > >-- > >Fred H. Olson Minneapolis,MN 55411 USA (near north Mpls) > > Email: fholson at cohousing.org 612-588-9532 > >My Link Pg: http://fholson.cohousing.org My org: > >Communications for Justice -- Free, superior listserv's w/o ads > > > >Summary of tasks involved in managing cohousing-L > >o Daily: > >-- review a few posts held by software filters -- > >1) posted from a non-subscribed address > > a) some spam which gets discarded, > > b) post that is appropriate but came from an address that is not > >subscribed. > > Approve it for distribution. > > I generally send these posters a canned message suggesting actions > >they > > may want to take depending on the situation > >2) post is too big > > a) excessive quoting like a quoted digest - several ways of dealing > > with these > > b) has an attachment that needs to be dealt with > > c) long but appropriate post, approve it > > > >o Less than daily (a few time a week?) : > >Deal with list related email. > >There usually is not too much of this and it varies widely. Most often > >it is related to unsubscribing, subscribing, change of address. > >Fortuantely cohousing folks are very good about dealing with these things > >themselves via the forms on the Info Page ( > >http://cohousing.org/cohousing-L ) > > > >o Other occcasional tasks include -- > >1) editing list related web pages > >2) archiving subscriber list (I do it monthly) > >3) reviewing procedures, writing "canned responses" to recurring requests > >4) posting to the list related to discussion process. This is rare -- > > Cohousing-L subscribers are about the most civilized, thoughtful > > mailing list participants one could ask for. > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > >http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > > -- Alice Alexander Executive Director www.cohousing.org <http://www.cohous.org> [image: The Cohousing Association]
The Future of Cohousing-L mailing list Fred H Olson, February 20 2015
- Re: The Future of Cohousing-L mailing list Kathryn McCamant, February 20 2015
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