Re: management services vs self-management at the building stage | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Jerry McIntire (jerry.mcintiregmail.com) | |
Date: Thu, 7 May 2015 05:53:21 -0700 (PDT) |
Writing from a town of 5,000 people, where we are doing our own development work, my sense is that the more urban and the larger the project, the more helpful or necessary hiring a professional management team would be. Here in rural Wisconsin where we have no zoning, no minimum house size, and plenty of do-it-yourselfers, we purchased the land on our own and are running the project ourselves. We will hire professionals: a permaculture designer for our site plan, a master plumber for our sanitary systems, an engineer to draw our plans, a real estate attorney, and an architect or design/build team for our common house. Where will you be in the Vancouver area? Jerry Jerry McIntire Stone's Throw Ecovillage, in the heart of Wisconsin's beautiful Driftless region http://stonesthrowcommunity.wordpress.com/ 1-608-637-6620 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:59 PM, Allison tom <allison.tom [at] telus.net> wrote: > > Thanks, John, yes, this is what I am referring to and this kind of company > does exist here! > > Allison > > > > > On May 5, 2015, at 9:24 PM, John Carver <jcarver [at] islandnet.com> wrote: > > > > > > I believe Allison is referring to what's called a project manager, one > who oversees the project but is not the developer. > > > > Allison, we're just across the water in Nanaimo at Pacific Gardens > Cohousing. Our group hired an administrator to handle the business side, a > project manager to oversee the building construction and a construction > company to assemble the contracts to do the actual building. We created a > numbered company to be the developer, so the developer was us. That is, > through the numbered company we bought the land, did the hiring, applied > for the rezoning and permits, arranged the financing, filed with land > titles then sold the properties to the member/shareholders. > > > > Unfortunately none of the above, including the architects, were > cohousing experienced, and our little clutch of would-be cohousers were not > development experienced, which made for a rough learning pathway. Mistakes > were made, some of them quite costly. That said, I think I can say we are > generally happy with the result, but most would agree we would have done > better with the right professionals. > > > > Being in Vancouver you have access to good experienced resource people. > Reach out to the other cohousing groups in the area for their suggestions. > > > > John Carver > > Pacific Gardens Cohousing Community, Nanaimo, BC > > http://pacificgardens.ca/ > > (Yes, we do have units for sale.) > > > >> On 05/05/2015 6:44 PM, Katie Henry wrote: > >> On Cohousing-L, the person who handles land acquisition and > construction is normally referred to as the developer. A management company > is an entity that manages the facility after construction is finished and > the community members have moved in (paying bills, performing maintenance, > etc.). The terms may be different in Canada, but you'll have better luck in > the coho-l archives using the term "developer." > >> Katie Henry > >> From: Allison tom <allison.tom [at] telus.net> > >> To: Katie Henry <katie-henry [at] att.net>; "cohousing-l [at] > >> cohousing.org" < > cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 8:24 PM > >> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ management services vs self-management at the > building stage > >> No, I mean a management company who oversees the process of land > acquisition, building, community formation. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> On May 5, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Katie Henry <katie-henry [at] att.net> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>> I would very much appreciate hearing from list members who can > share their > stories about buying land & building with and without a > management company. > >>> I think you might mean a developer, rather than a management company. > You might try the archives again, searching on "developer." > >>> Katie Henry > >>> _________________________________________________________________ > >>> Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > >>> http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > >> _________________________________________________________________ > >> Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > >> http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > >
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Re: management services vs self-management at the building stage Allison tom, May 5 2015
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Re: management services vs self-management at the building stage Katie Henry, May 5 2015
- Re: management services vs self-management at the building stage John Carver, May 5 2015
- Re: management services vs self-management at the building stage Allison tom, May 5 2015
- Re: management services vs self-management at the building stage Jerry McIntire, May 7 2015
- Re: management services vs self-management at the building stage Elizabeth Magill, May 8 2015
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Re: management services vs self-management at the building stage Katie Henry, May 5 2015
- Consultation & Facilities Management [was management services vs self-management at the building stage Sharon Villines, May 6 2015
- Re: Consultation & Facilities Management [was management services vs self-management at the building stage Jerry McIntire, May 7 2015
- Re: Consultation & Facilities Management [was management services vs self-management at the building stage rsmith2, May 8 2015
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Re: management services vs self-management at the building stage Allison tom, May 5 2015
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