Greenhouse and Eden Alternative
From: Kathryn McCamant (
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 09:29:13 -0800 (PST)
A number of communities (f.ex Shephard Village in Shepherdtown WV) are
exploring how they might be able to include a Greenhouse Project as part
of their community or adjacent to it. When a group is in the midst of
trying to develop their community, its nearly impossible to also take on
organizing a Greenhouse Project, so generally that would happen after they
get moved in. And generally, it seems that what they really need is
³provider²‹an organization that will take on developing, funding, and
running that specific project. The cohousing project may be able to
provide the land and volunteers, but that is likely all they can
realistically take on. Wondering if you, Mary, or anyone else, has
resources to find or connect communities to such resources?

Kathryn McCamant, President
CoHousing Solutions
241B Commercial Street
Nevada City, CA 95959
T.530.478.1970  C.916.798.4755

On 2/2/16, 2:40 PM, "Cohousing-L on behalf of Mary Vallier-Kaplan"
< [at] on
behalf of marycvk [at]> wrote:

>I would like to put in a loud cheer for the Eden Alternative and
>Project and the work of Bill Thomas.  His work on how to reframe and
>restructure living in community when one needs the support of health
>professionals is making a sea change across the country.  I have visited
>several, worked with the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation on funding and am
>working with a group to convert county facility to a place I'd like to
>if I needed such support.  It has many cohousing concepts - self
>choices but in context of a community of others, community consensus
>decisionmaking (not run by health professionals), community meals,
>environmentally friendly, shared services, common room, intergenerational
>both with those who live there but also incorporates school children, day
>care centers, college students, etc.  Not sure we need a presentation at
>May meeting but I think it would be great if someone who is knowledgeable
>be present and telling the stories and opportunities and lessons learned
>which are many.
>Mary Vallier-Kaplan
>Nubanusit Neighborhood & Farm
>On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 7:34 AM, Fred-List manager <fholson [at]>
>> Arthur Rashap <arthur.rashap [at]>
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>> --------------------  FORWARDED MESSAGE FOLLOWS --------------------
>> I am writing about the Aging Better Together Conference. I have 15
>>years of
>> experience working with Dr. William Thomas (Eden Alternative,
>> now on a national tour seeking to change the way we view and treat
>> with a top Area Agency on the Aging (JABA in Charlottesville) and
>> years working on and consulting regarding the planning of
>> communities. I had offered to share my knowledge and views at the May
>> Conference and this was rejected.
>> I am contributing here a portion of a talk I have given regarding the
>> we can view integrating those deemed to be "old" or "older" into
>> or planned communities. I would be happy to send the full talk and/or
>> materials to those who might be interested. I would like to have been
>> included in the Conference.
>> *One Avenue to Consider for Long-Term Care: Aging in Community: The
>> Trillion Dollar Answer*
>> Aging is a team sport ­ if you try to do it all by yourself you will
>>have a
>> very hard time.  Aging requires us to cooperate and collaborate with
>> people.  But this is not what society teaches us about aging.  We are
>> heading for a tremendous crack-up between the amount of money needed to
>> support an aging population and the amount that is made available.
>>This is
>> a mathematical statement not a political statement. We need new ways of
>> thinking about aging.
>> The popular view of aging is linear and one dimensional. It¹s all down
>> from your 28th birthday!  At the end of that story is failure, burden,
>> disease, disability, dementia, death.  Individuals feel they need to
>> against these ³d² words.
>> We think that dependence means that reliance on others is a bad thing.
>> However, it¹s when you can no longer depend on anybody that you die.
>> When we dread something, we create a beautiful picture of the exact
>> opposite.
>> This is what is going on in the field of aging.  There are two options
>> aging. One, you can be independent so that people can use the word
>> to describe you. ³She Œstill¹ scrubs the floors on her knees. He Œstill¹
>> works 60 hours a week. After six face-lifts she Œstill¹ looks 20 years
>> younger. Isn¹t that wonderful!² Or, you can be dependent. You can
>> that as you age changes occur. You gear your life to accommodate these
>> changes and exchange time, energy, favors, and love with others to
>> benefit.
>> ³Aging in place² is a mirage, a fantasy created by our terrible fear of
>> institutions.  Of course statistics show that people want to age in
>> Which would you prefer?  Living at home or being thrown down a flight of
>> stairs?
>> We have a mythic understanding of independence. What we really mean by
>> independence is having a say in the nature and structure of how we
>> on people.
>> We have two ways of looking at aging:  healthy and active or disabled
>> senile.  When a society gets locked into this contrast, the result is
>> and alienation. Forms of assistance are stated in how many dollars for
>> professional services.  Well being is measured by access to professional
>> services.
>> There are alternatives. Making these happen is and will be an exercise
>> creating an acceptable form of dependence.
>> Arthur Rashap
>> Arthur W. Rashap
>> Home phone: (434) 995-5020
>> Cell # (434) 218-8927
>> arthur.rashap [at]
>> 1719B Galloway Drive
>> Charlottesville, VA 22901
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