Re: Launching June 15: CohousingMap.net
From: Catya Belfer (catyapobox.com)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 05:23:13 -0700 (PDT)
Speaking as the person primarily responsible for cohousing.org, I'd LOVE to
build out some more sophisticated functionality there.  I haven't, because:

1 - I'm not actually a software developer, I'm just good at drupal  (my day
job is tech project management)
2 - Most social solutions require someone to babysit them (aka
moderate/handle spam/etc), and I'm lacking both time and drive for that

That said, if any of the folks on this thread would like to contribute to
cohousing.org rather than do their own thing, I'm super up for that!

     - cat

Catya Belfer   -  www.catya.org
Technical Director   -   www.cohousing.org
Cohousing in MA - www.mosaic-commons.org

On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 7:54 AM, R Philip Dowds <rpdowds [at] comcast.net> 
wrote:

>
> Maybe there is an informative analogy between cohousing and the general
> typology of which it is a subset: condominium associations (or HOAs, as
> they are known in some states).
>
> For sure, there are many professionals and disciplines that seek to earn,
> and do earn, a living from condominiums:  Real estate developers,
> architects specializing in multi-family design, property managers,
> attorneys, accountants and reserve planning specialists, and so on.  Some
> of these professionals are focused uniquely on condos, others are active
> more broadly in the residential or real estate market.  In any event, there
> is money to be made, and there are professional associations with budgets,
> staff and annual conventions supporting the various disciplines.
>
> But … is there a national condominium movement?  That is, an organized
> body of advocates and practitioners who believe that condominiums are the
> right way to live, and that (most) everyone should be living in
> condominiums?  Is there a national condominium association promoting condo
> life, and trying to draw people in, proselytizing the concept like a church
> or conservation group?  If there is, it is unknown to me.
>
> So: I don’t think there is any such thing as a national condominium
> movement.  Nor do I think there is much money to attract by promoting
> condos as a great idea generally.  I think there are some reasons why this
> might be true — and I think some of these reasons are applicable to
> cohousing.  For those of us who do believe that cohousing is a great idea …
> are we the vanguard of a movement?  Or, are we trying to share a gift?  How
> we answer this question will influence how we conceptualize our financial
> model.
>
> Thanks,
> Philip Dowds
> Cornerstone Village Cohousing
> Cambridge, MA
>
> > On Jun 16, 2016, at 10:46 PM, Ann Zabaldo <zabaldo [at] earthlink.net> 
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Jun 16, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Tiffany Lee Brown <magdalen23 [at] gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why not make it so the same platform/with a differently branded app
> could be used for developers to start for-profit housing arrangements?
> >
> > Why would a developer or a group of developers do this unless they knew
> they could make a profit?  What we lack is research and reliable industry
> figures that current professionals are willing to share so as to draw other
> professionals into the biz.
> >>
> >> The rationale in this case is to get venture capitalists and/or
> developers to put up the money to develop tools the rest of us need! I've
> spent most of my life in nonprofit, community projects. It does not behoove
> us to underpay our visionaries and workers, or to expect everything to be
> done on a volunteer basis --  this is still how I do many things, but I
> think it lends itself to burnout and limits community leadership and
> engagement to people who can afford to work for free. Not everyone has that
> luxury.
> >
> > I agree that we overwork our volunteers to death.   If cohousing is to
> grow, it needs to provide people with an income so they can work in a field
> they love full time and not “hobby” time.
> >
> > However, I still don’t see developers putting up the money to develop
> tools “the rest of use will use.”   First of all … who are “the rest of
> us?”  The volunteer folks?  The folks that will  work to create one
> cohousinig community they will live in but not another one?  How does that
> further the movement beyond what is happening right now?   If cohousing is
> to really, seriously take off … it needs a professional group of people who
> earn a living at this.  Development is too big to do part time or with just
> volunteers.   (And God Bless all the zillions of volunteers and volunteer
> hours by paid professionals who have gotten us this far in the movement.
> You are Awesome!)
> >>
> >> Tiffany
> >>
> >> Sent from the far shores of a distant land
> >
> > Best --
> >
> > Ann Zabaldo
> > Takoma Village Cohousing
> > Washington, DC
> > Principal, Cohousing Collaborative, LLC
> > Falls Church, VA
> > 202.546.4654
> >
> > My password is the last 5 digits of Pi …
> >>
> >
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