Re: Wireless dislike
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 11:55:26 -0700 (PDT)
I agree that disagreements in cohousing are rarely settled by science.  We've 
tried it with other issues and it hasn't worked well.  
I don't see this particular disagreement ending well, for a number of 
reasons:1.  Wireless is ubiquitous, inside and outside the boundaries of our 
land.2.  We're a pretty high density community of 24 units, plus a common house 
with wifi, so that's potentially 25 wireless networks right there, although 
some people may have agreements to share.  2.  Several people in our community 
work from home, and wireless seems to be a vital part of their work setups.3.  
We provide wireless access in the Common House in order for people to get 
easily to our online resources during meetings.   4.  Expecting that residents 
stop using wireless means dictating to your neighbors how they organize their 
own homes and and live in them.  It feels like a pretty intrusive expectation 
to me.  5.  The particular person I've heard this from is a relatively new 
owner, and I don't know why she didn't bring a laptop around before purchasing 
and see how many networks there are, and then decide to move out into the 
county.  It's not like wireless networks were hidden from her before they 
purchased.  6.  I think a lot of us set up our phones to use our wireless while 
we're at home, reducing our cell phone data costs (if that's still a thing -- 
cell phone payment plans change faster than I can keep up with.)  
Perhaps we can all go in together on a common wireless network, reducing the 
total from all of us to just one, although our Common house Internet provider 
has said that that kind of redistribution is not allowed.  I also don't know 
whether having fewer networks but with boosters to cover the whole community 
provides any supposed "health benefits" over the situation we have now.   
Just the thought of trying to have a community discussion on this issue, 
especially since we are in the midst of trying to resolve several other 
contentious issues, makes me profoundly exhausted.  
Sue Stigleman sstigleman [at] 828-989-9373

      From: Jenny Guy <jenstermeister [at]>
 To: cohousing-l [at] 
 Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 2:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Wireless dislike

I don't agree that the science is in about wifi signals. No definitive
proof that they are harmful is not the same as proof that they are safe,
and studies have raised concerns, at least for vulnerable people. But as
Sue said, it's hard to get away from them, plus they're very convenient, so
for now I'm just hoping for the best; I have enough other things to worry
about. However I do choose not to sleep in the bedroom that is on the other
side of the wall with 6 "smart" electric meters (tiny bdrm, and the only
place a bed will fit is against that wall). When we rewire our old
buildings, I hope to put in as much wiring for computers, TV cables and
phones as possible, so that if it does become a concern, we will have

Jenny Guy
Kingfisher Cohousing, Oakland, Calif.

On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 5:18 AM, Tom Smyth <tom [at]> wrote:

> There is no scientific evidence of health risk from wireless networks. This
> is a horribly misunderstood issue.
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Sue <sstigleman [at]> wrote:
> >
> > Have any communities dealt with the issue of health concerns about
> > wireless networks?  We have had numerous wireless networks in our
> community
> > for years, and there has been a lot of in-fill building nearby.  One (?)
> of
> > our members is beginning to complain.
> >
> > My personal view is good luck with any attempt to put the wireless genie
> > back in the bottle --ain't gonna happen, and whoever wants to do it is
> > going to go sharply negative on social capital -- but I thought I'd tap
> > into the group experience here for some wisdom.
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > --Sue
> > Westwood Cohousing in asheville, NC
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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