Re: Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity? Just because one has a liberal political ...
From: Liz Ryan Cole (
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 14:11:05 -0800 (PST)
...perspective does not mean your group is not/doesn’t value diversity when it 
comes to race, or gender, or age, or income, etc.   Differences in political 
perspective are just one type of difference - cohousing is diverse and hopes to 
be more so because we believe we learn from people who are not just like us.  
Reasonable people can differ about the role of government, but not on giving 
men more power than women or whites more power than people of color, or on 
heterosexual familes over LGBT families. One can disagree about belief, but not 
about fact based matters - you can choose what to believe, but you can’t choose 
your facts.

the “same page” M. Manata refers to is, I believe, a common appreciation of the 
value of community.

:)  liz

Liz Ryan Cole
lizryancole [at]
Pinnacle Cohousing at Loch Lyme Lodge
Lyme, NH

I arise in the morning torn between a desire to improve the world and a desire 
to enjoy the world. This makes it hard to plan the day.”
― E.B. White

On Nov 24, 2016, at 1:37 PM, Gerald Manata via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at]> wrote:

I think I would like to jump in on this conversation. The primary reason that 
people, certainly my neighbors, moved into cohousing is that they knew that 
they would be surrounded with people more like themselves, in other words, 
basically liberal democrats. A cohousing complex is relatively speaking, a very 
undiverse place and that is the way people, consciously or unconsciously, want 
it. It is an ethic of liberal democrats to say they want diversity so that is 
why they publicly say it. Diversity is great, indeed very necessary, in a mass 
society, but not in a cohousing complex. Cohousing is an INTENTIONAL community 
created and composed of like minded people. The only way to operate consensus 
democracy is if everyone is basically on the same page to begin with.  
On Wed, 11/23/16, Virgil Huston <virgil.huston1955 [at]> wrote:

Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity
To: cohousing-l [at]
Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2016, 5:40 PM

I am
with you (and this thread will probably get deleted). The
from the left over the election (I
didn't vote for Trump OR Hillary)
is the
worst I have ever seen. To the point I am pretty sure I
not be a good fit for a cohousing
community where my unorthodox
opinion on
politics (Libertarian would best describe it, but truly
independent and doesn't fit either Democrat
or Republican orthodoxy).
This makes me sad,
but better to know now than after I have made an

Seriously, this stuff needs to be talked about
and shouldn't get
deleted. What I have
seen is what is essentially an ideological test
for many communities.


On Wed,
Nov 23, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Ty Albright <tmalbright [at]>
> I must
share my frustration about some of the comments recently
made on this
> list in reaction to the
recent election.
Possibly because I live in "fly over" country and
arguably participate in a
> different
"culture" my opinions are different from many who
live in other
> parts of the country.
> However I can tell
you that the tone of many of these discussions are
> offensive and demonstrate the lack of
inclusion and diversity that many
> claim
to be seeking and promote as desirable.
> The suggestion that
because of the election suddenly we now need to deal
> with people who are racist, white
supremacist, and this or that phobia is
nuts.  The suggested concern being expressed by some about
how they hope
> that those types of
people don't move into my community or how could we
> along with people who have such
wrong ideas is hypocritical.
I believe the more important question is do you really value
inclusion.  Can
> you live with others
even if they do not share your personal political
> beliefs?  Apparently we live in a country
divided on political beliefs; so
> should
there be a test so only those who agree with your views (and
not the
> wrong views) are allowed to
live in your community?
Wake up and smell the coffee people.  People who disagree
with your world
> view are everywhere,
and walk amongst you (this applies to everyone
> regardless of your views).  You don't
have to agree politically or be
> friends
with your neighbor, but if you want community you should
> inclusive and to be a good
neighbor.  Stop assuming the sky is falling.
> p.s. for those who
need to know - I did not vote for Trump, but he is now
> our president-elect and I still like my
> Ty - in Dallas
> Ty Albright Project
> Little Red Hen LLC
> 214-336-7952
<mailto:tmalbright [at]>
tmalbright [at]
>   <>

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