Re: Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: David Davenport (daviddavenportmindspring.com) | |
Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 11:01:55 -0800 (PST) |
Hello All, This has always been a conundrum for me personally - I say that I want diversity, but then I don't want the ultra-right, or maybe even ultra-anything. To me, ultra-anything people seem to be ridged in their views; not willing to compromise, or even listen to other views. Difference of opinion is okay and even desired as long as we can we can be civil. Maybe civil diversity is a dream and mixed ultra-anything groups end up like the present environment in Washington. Dave -----Original Message----- From: Cohousing-L [mailto:cohousing-l-bounces+cohousing=mindspring.com [at] cohousing.org] On Behalf Of Gerald Manata via Cohousing-L Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 1:37 PM To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Cc: Gerald Manata <gmanata2003 [at] yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity I think I would like to jump in on this conversation. The primary reason that people, certainly my neighbors, moved into cohousing is that they knew that they would be surrounded with people more like themselves, in other words, basically liberal democrats. A cohousing complex is relatively speaking, a very undiverse place and that is the way people, consciously or unconsciously, want it. It is an ethic of liberal democrats to say they want diversity so that is why they publicly say it. Diversity is great, indeed very necessary, in a mass society, but not in a cohousing complex. Cohousing is an INTENTIONAL community created and composed of like minded people. The only way to operate consensus democracy is if everyone is basically on the same page to begin with. -------------------------------------------- On Wed, 11/23/16, Virgil Huston <virgil.huston1955 [at] gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [C-L]_ Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity To: cohousing-l [at] cohousing.org Date: Wednesday, November 23, 2016, 5:40 PM I am with you (and this thread will probably get deleted). The hate from the left over the election (I didn't vote for Trump OR Hillary) is the worst I have ever seen. To the point I am pretty sure I will not be a good fit for a cohousing community where my unorthodox opinion on politics (Libertarian would best describe it, but truly independent and doesn't fit either Democrat or Republican orthodoxy). This makes me sad, but better to know now than after I have made an investment. Seriously, this stuff needs to be talked about and shouldn't get deleted. What I have seen is what is essentially an ideological test for many communities. Virgil On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 10:55 AM, Ty Albright <tmalbright [at] verizon.net> wrote: > > I must share my frustration about some of the comments recently made on this > list in reaction to the recent election. > > > > Possibly because I live in "fly over" country and arguably participate in a > different "culture" my opinions are different from many who live in other > parts of the country. > > > > However I can tell you that the tone of many of these discussions are > offensive and demonstrate the lack of inclusion and diversity that many > claim to be seeking and promote as desirable. > > > > The suggestion that because of the election suddenly we now need to deal > with people who are racist, white supremacist, and this or that phobia is > nuts. The suggested concern being expressed by some about how they hope > that those types of people don't move into my community or how could we get > along with people who have such wrong ideas is hypocritical. > > > > I believe the more important question is do you really value inclusion. Can > you live with others even if they do not share your personal political > beliefs? Apparently we live in a country divided on political beliefs; so > should there be a test so only those who agree with your views (and not the > wrong views) are allowed to live in your community? > > > > Wake up and smell the coffee people. People who disagree with your world > view are everywhere, and walk amongst you (this applies to everyone > regardless of your views). You don't have to agree politically or be > friends with your neighbor, but if you want community you should be > inclusive and to be a good neighbor. Stop assuming the sky is falling. > > > > p.s. for those who need to know - I did not vote for Trump, but he is now > our president-elect and I still like my neighbors. > > > > Ty - in Dallas > > Ty Albright Project Management > Little Red Hen LLC > 214-336-7952 > <mailto:tmalbright [at] verizon.net> tmalbright [at] verizon.net > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/tmalbright> www.linkedin.com/in/tmalbright > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > > _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ _________________________________________________________________ Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/
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Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity Ty Albright, November 23 2016
- Re: Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity Virgil Huston, November 23 2016
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Re: Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity Gerald Manata, November 24 2016
- Re: Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity David Davenport, November 24 2016
- Re: Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity? Just because one has a liberal political ... Liz Ryan Cole, November 24 2016
- Re: Are some ideas wrong? and do you really value diversity Fred-List manager, November 27 2016
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