Re: Affordable Housing | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Sharon Villines (sharon![]() |
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Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:01:56 -0800 (PST) |
> On Feb 13, 2017, at 11:11 AM, Diane <dianeclaire [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > Sure the rules we live by need periodic review to make sure they don't > contradict each other and do remain current, but we do need rules. The bulk of building codes are reviewed nationally by practicing experienced people who care about the subject. Cities most often use these codes, but beyond those, there are local zoning codes and other weirdnesses that increase the cost of housing. Just permitting takes so long that it can add a lot of costs because time means money. Prices are going up and interest payments don’t stop. 60 Minutes did a piece on a builder in a major upper NW city, Seattle (I think) who was being praised for the affordable housing he was building. It was like some of the plans we have seen for small apts or rooms around a central kitchen and living area. He said he was building in the west because he couldn’t build for an affordable price in NYC. The process and the requirements added too many costs. (Along with bribes.) One group in Florida had the highest demand for one bedroom units and studios because that was what people could afford and all they needed. The bank refused to give them a construction loan if they had more than 2-3. “No one will buy them." Then there are all the communities that have to go through rezoning for multifamily dwellings. Or alternative materials. I talked with one group that wanted to do straw bale houses on land that was zoned for single family houses with a minimum of 3 acre lots. I said, “I think you need a fall back just in case.” But they had the time and contacts so they persisted and did it. The solution was to build single family homes but to cluster them in the center of an equal number of lots. They didn’t impinge on neighbors privacy or view. But this is rare and it took almost 2 years to get approval for that one tiny piec. Not everyone can hold on that long or keep their option on land that long. (I think the planning board thought straw bale was a novelty and would never happen anyway.) There are many things that don’t make sense. A small kickstarter funded specialty coffee shop in our neighborhood was delayed 6 weeks in opening because before the city inspector came out to approve their electrical setup the city changed the code and required it for all new approvals even if the group was waiting for final sign offs. They suddenly needed $25,000 to rewire and wait for another long period to get a final permit. They raised the money from the community and eventually opened. But during that time, several months, the two young partners had no income but were still paying all the expenses. This is why groups need to work with professionals who often know how to get around the requirements of a particular neighborhood. And why many communities just went rural where there were fewer codes. But if you are in a neighborhood in which sidewalks and paved streets are the norm, it is not unreasonable that you would also be required to build these. Sharon ---- Sharon Villines Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC http://www.takomavillage.org
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Re: Affordable Housing Brian Bartholomew, February 11 2017
- Re: Affordable Housing Noel Rosenberg, February 12 2017
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Re: Affordable Housing Diane, February 13 2017
- Re: Affordable Housing Elizabeth Magill, February 13 2017
- Re: Affordable Housing Sharon Villines, February 13 2017
- Re: Affordable Housing Kathryn McCamant, February 13 2017
- Re: Affordable Housing Sharon Villines, February 13 2017
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Re: Affordable Housing Brian Bartholomew, February 11 2017
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