|Re: gender stereotypes||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Tiffany Lee Brown (magdalen23gmail.com)|
|Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2017 14:33:23 -0700 (PDT)|
it's kind of tough: marketing relies on categorizing people into often unfair and ridiculous clumps in order to get results. gender provides a fabulous shortcut way to talk about that. but i agree that this discussion has perpetuated stereotypes in a very het-cis-privileged-dominant-etc way. if one is thinking, "We need to appeal to men more," a good question to ask might be, "Why do I feel that our co-housing community needs more people who happen to identify as men?" if you're thinking, "We need more hard workers with creative, hands-on skills," then show off that workshop and your space will appeal to those workshoppy folks -- whether they skew male, female, XXY, trans, neither, or Other. to get my family interested, your brochure would have a dedicated yoga space (for the male-born, masculine-identifying husband) and an art-and-books-making studio (for the male-born, mostly masculine-identifying son). the only one of us likely to see a shop photo and go, "Oooooh! Can't wait to get my hands on that!" would be me, the female-born, mostly-female-identifying wife. and i would be hoping for a space where all genders felt comfortable working, and, notably, where learning could happen. my husband and i are both pretty crappy with maintenance and power tools. for us, the suggestion of a workshop where you could take classes or learn from experienced people would be meaningful. if "shop" is just code for "man cave", as some of the posts here have suggested, then maybe there is a whole other gender-oriented discussion to have. is the perception that men (or "most men") are reluctant to live in a community that doesn't have a men-only space? if that is being offered up, should there also be a women-only space? will there be limits on how people identify, gender-wise? will your community have a separate space for trans and questioning folks? t (who honestly shouldn't even be posting here! we have given up on community co-housing fantasies for the time being, and are presently closing on a house. a normal, one-family, boring ol' stick-built house. hoping to slide up a couple tiny houses for extended family and work studios.) > On Jul 12, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Tom Smyth <tom [at] tomsmyth.ca> wrote: > > >> >>> ....Anytime people start talking about "how men are" versus "how women >> are" I >>> want to scream as I've spent most of my life fighting these stereotypes >> ... >>> >>> Be clear about your values & vision and market that. It's more important >>> that you attract people who resonate with those than getting some >> arbitrary >>> percentages based on gender/race/socioeconomic status/whatever. >> > > THIS > > > -- > Tom Smyth > > Worker-Owner, Sassafras Tech Collective > Specializing in innovative, usable tech for social change > sassafras.coop · @sassafrastech > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://www.cohousing.org/cohousing-L/ > >
- Re: gender stereotypes Lynn Nadeau / Maraiah, July 12 2017
- Gender stereotypes Jonathan Kallay, July 13 2017
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