|Re: car-sharing question (Findhorn) CORRECTION||<– Date –> <– Thread –>|
|From: Fred H Olson (fholsoncohousing.org)|
|Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2018 13:24:02 -0800 (PST)|
Here is a corrected version of my post to clarify that 1) Moray Car Share does not charge members for petrol 2) Hourcar info corrected and missing footnote added back Fred Graham Meltzer wrote about the car share system at Findhorn. including: > I would not say it's a particularly cheap way to go; probably the > costs are equivalent to ownership of a medium priced small car. A lot depends on how much you use a car which of course is related to the availability and useability of alternatives - bikes, transit etc. I looked at the cost comparison chart via the web site for the system there and it appears that for moderate use car sharing is cheaper. I converted the chart to have dollars and our public car sharing system (below). Any one care to dig out car ownership figures for the US? Car sharing is something that cohousing is well suited to adopt on a small scale. It would be great if we can develop ways to deal with the complexities particularly insurance. BTW another advantage of car sharing is the reduced need for parking on site -- a significant driver of land requirements / cost in urban areas. Fred Cost comparison Moray Carshare versus Owning a Car http://www.moraycarshare.com/ The following tables compares Moray Carshare prices with the cost of running a small car, e.g. a Toyota Aygo, bought as one year old and sold and replaced when it is 8 years old. Moray charges Pounds Sterling Dollars Cost per mile 0.21 0.29 Cost per hour 0.75 1.04 In car owning estimates (only) : Petrol cost per mile 0.10 0.139 Ourcar ** $55 annually $6.75 /hour $0.35 per mile Example 1: With the usage of an average member (22 hours and 130 miles per month = 1,560 miles/year): Pounds Dollars Per Per $ Per Per Cost of owning your own car yr mo yr mo Depreciation, set-aside or loan 857 71 1191 90 Insurance 350 29 487 40 Service, MOT & repairs 300 33 417 46 Road tax (rates: April 2017) 140 12 195 17 Petrol (10p per mile) 156 13 217 18 TOTAL 1803 150 2506 209 Hourcar ** Per Per $ Per Per $ Per Per Cost of using Moray Carshare yr mo yr mo year month Subscription 192 16 267 22 55 5 Hourly charges (75p per hour) 198 16 275 22 1716 143 Mileage charges (21p per mile) 328 27 456 38 546 46 TOTAL 718 60 998 83 2317 193 Example 2: With a higher usage: (50 hours and 333 miles per month=4,000 miles per year): Pounds Dollars Per Per $ Per Per Cost of owning your own car yr mo yr mo Depreciation, set-aside or loan 857 71 1191 99 Insurance 350 29 487 40 Service, MOT & repairs 400 42 556 58 Road tax "rates: April 2017) 140 12 195 17 Petrol (10p per mile) 400 33 556 46 Hourcar ** Per Per $ Per Per $ Per Per Cost of using Moray Carshare yr mo yr mo year month Subscription 192 16 267 22 55 Hourly charges (75p per hour) 450 37 626 51 3900 325 Mileage charges (21p per mile) 840 70 1168 97 1399 117 TOTAL 1482 123 2056 171 5354 446 Note this table is from (3/3/18) http://s3.spanglefish.com/s/31371/documents/cost-of-mcs-vs-own-car.pdf Simplified, dollar column and Ourcar added by Fred H Olson fholson [at] cohousing.org Note that Dollars are just conversion for exchange rate 1 pound = $1.39 No revised estimates for USA costs made. ** Hourcar is a local non-profit car share in Minneapolis with 55 stations in, near of between downtown Minneapolis and St Paul. https://hourcar.org/ Fred -- Bassett Creek Cohousing, Minneapolis http://mn.cohousing.org/bcrk/ Fred H. Olson Minneapolis,MN 55411 USA (near north Mpls) Email: fholson at cohousing.org 612-588-9532 My Link Pg: http://fholson.cohousing.org
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