From: Elizabeth Magill (
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2018 13:15:27 -0700 (PDT)
I'll say that our parking experience was exactly the opposite. We told
the town that hardly anyone would drive and we built just a hair more
than two parking places per household.

We are in an ex-urban environment, and most of us came from cities to
live here. So idealism about using less cars did not take into account
the lack of public transportation. Even if someone is using public
transit they have to drive to get to the starting point.

AND our houses ended up very expensive so many people are renting
rooms, including people who had no plans to do so. Generally one more
car for each additional renter.

AND it gets tiresome to bring your kids everywhere, so a fair number
of cars for the driving age kids.

Mosaic Commons cohousing
Berlin MA

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:41 PM, Kathryn McCamant
<kmccamant [at]> wrote:
> Sharon's example of parking at Takoma Village is very interesting, showing an 
> actual reduction of cars in the community over time. I wish the Research 
> Network could collect data like this as it would be very very helpful for new 
> communities.
> Katie
> --
> Kathryn McCamant, President
> CoHousing Solutions
> Nevada City, CA 95959
> On 8/1/18, 10:44 AM, "Cohousing-L on behalf of Sharon Villines via 
> Cohousing-L" < [at] 
> on behalf of cohousing-l [at]> wrote:
>     > On Aug 1, 2018, at 12:52 PM, Kathryn McCamant <kmccamant [at] 
>> wrote:
>     >
>     > This type of useless neighborhood opposition, and the American 
> resistance to any reasonable density (afterall, we are just talking 2-story 
> townhomes with plenty of room for gardens) within established cities is only 
> adds to keeping housing prices high and cities car dependent.
>     >
>     > I hope the larger cohousing community will support those communities 
> that run into unreasonable neighbors..... unfortunately, this kind of 
> unreasonable fear has killed or lessened many a good project.
>     Perhaps other communities who faced these problems can share their 
> stories so potential communities can understand that (1) it is isn’t 
> personal, and (2) how to change it or just live through it.
>     Addressing issues with data — doesn’t work with those who don’t accept 
> data over their own fears but you can’t assume everyone in the neighborhood 
> is of the same persuasion as the loudest. Pictures of other communities might 
> help — small communities, not crowded social events and parking lots to the 
> side which amplifies the number of cars. Do a study of your own car use. I 
> think people have the idea that people who live in “apartments” are driving 
> in and out all the time.
>     Fewer cars in cohousing — I’m sure there are figures on this somewhere 
> but cars have greatly reduced numbers in our community. When we moved in, I 
> think only one unit of 43 had no car and several had 2 cars with one parked 
> on the street because we provided only 1 per unit. Within a year people were 
> allowing their first and second cars to die and not replacing them. 18 years 
> later there are 5-6 spaces available for rent or guests and no second cars 
> that I know of. People share regularly. We also are 2 blocks from the Metro 
> and bus lines but I suspect cars are used much less in other communities too.
>     Sharon
>     ----
>     Sharon Villines
>     Takoma Village Cohousing, Washington DC
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(The Rev.) Elizabeth M. Magill
Minister to the Affiliates, Ecclesia Ministries

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