Grace Kim on TED Radio Hour NPR
From: Grace Kim (
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 23:26:39 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Ann- Thanks for the shout out!

For those of you interested, here's the link to the TED Radio Hour interview 
that first aired on April 24...sounds like it was replayed this weekend.
And if you don't want to listen to the full hour, you can navigate down to my 
segment to listen for 11 minutes. They did the first interview with me 
pre-covid and followed up again in March a few weeks into the stay at home 

And since you asked for an update Ann:
Life in the other Capitol Hill (Seattle) has certainly been intense this past 
month - we've not only be trying to practice physical distancing in a very 
urban cohousing community (9 households occupying 4500sf of land in a 5-story 
building in the densest neighborhood west of the Mississippi River) but we are 
also trying to stay socially connected. Like most, we have stopped our 
community meals in early March. We have figured out a regime of cleaning all of 
the public areas (stairs, elevator, balconies, front/back doors) twice a day 
and how to minimize trips to the grocery store by picking up odd/ends for 
neighbors each time someone goes out. We have utilized our balconies/courtyard 
for physically distanced birthday celebrations, bingo, exercise, dance parties, 
and concerts. We are enjoying the sun from our rooftop farm (where each night 
you can find at least a couple of households eating dinner or watching the 
sunset). We are also harvesting lots of produce from the farm (lettuce/greens, 
peas, radishes and chives were great last month as were the strawberries (bowls 
and bowls of them). We have added raspberries, more lettuce, and look forward 
to tomatoes, basil, peppers and squash.  We are blessed with our abundance (all 
from 2000sf of rootop space).

We are also living through the occupied protests that evolved from the Black 
Lives Matter protests after George Floyds murder.  CHUC (the acronym we have 
given ourselves as Capitol Hill Urban Cohousing) is literally 1 block from the 
edge of the CHOP (as it became known in the national news).

It was very frenetic in the week leading up to June 8 when the police vacated 
the police precinct 2 blocks away. That week was marked by flash bangs and tear 
gas till wee hours of the morning. There was a heightened sense of tension in 
the air. For the two or three weeks that followed the creation of the CHAZ then 
CHOP, we experienced a quiet that was much needed. There were still protestors 
but they were conducting teach-ins and offering support and food to one 
another. Things were pretty peaceful. There were anarchists afoot (trying to 
incite trouble) and the area started attracting drug dealers and others who 
used the crowds of the protests to hide and do their thing.
It was the weekend of gun shootings and deaths that caused the neighborhood to 
ask for the protesters to disperse. They were no longer being kind/respectful 
of all human lives, and the actual protestors of BLM moved on to make their 
presence known throughout the City. And the others were offered social 
services. Those who needed them accepted. Those who were here for other reasons 
moved on.
Sad as I am to say that it is over, I am also relieved to have my streets and 
park back. Those public spaces had become privatized by the protestors - many 
of whom could no longer articulate a common purpose. 

So thanks for asking Ann. I hope you are well in DC. 

And I hope that all the other cohousers on this list are staying safe, wearing 
their masks, and doing their part to further the difficult conversations about 
racial inequities in our country.  We, who live in cohousing, are very 
privileged to have this choice in how we live. This is a very auspicious time 
for us to work collectively to create a just society in which all people can be 
afforded the same choices and opportunities.

It heartens me to see you all taking care of each other and your communities.

grace h. kim aia | schemata workshop, inc.
pronouns: she/her

1720 12th avenue
seattle wa 98122
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Please note: Schemata Workshop employees are currently working remotely given 
the current public health situation.  

Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2020 12:59:19 -0400
From: Ann Zabaldo <zabaldo [at]>
To: Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at]>
Subject: [C-L]_ Grace Kim on TED Radio Hour NPR

It?s delightful to hear Grace talk about the message of cohousing once again.

Grace if you?re reading this maybe you can share about this interview you had 
for NPR.

Also, Grace,  ? checking in to find out how you and your community are doing a 
la Covid-19 and the recent occupation of the Capitol Hill area in Seattle as I 
believe that is the area where your coho community is located.  

Best --

Ann Zabaldo
Takoma Village Cohousing
Washington, DC

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