Re: Moving Back from Consensus
From: Bill Woolverton (bwoolvershaw.ca)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:35:07 -0800 (PST)
Consensus is a decision-making method, Sociocracy is a governance model which 
includes consent as a decision-making method. Consent is very similar to 
consensus. Both are similar to integrative decision-making, which is the method 
used in Holacracy, which is another governance model.

Bill
> On Dec 14, 2020, at 10:12, Mac Thomson via Cohousing-L <cohousing-l [at] 
> cohousing.org> wrote:
> 
> I find it interesting that people distinguish between consensus and 
> sociocracy as if they are two different things. In my understanding, 
> sociocracy is a form of consensus with clearly spelled out procedures, 
> organizational structure, delegation, etc. Both forms allow all participants 
> to consent to a decision.
> 
> It seems to me a bit like the distinction between intentional communities and 
> cohousing. Cohousing is a subset of intentional communities with certain 
> specifically spelled out criteria.
> 
> I admire the workings of sociocracy and feel that if our community decided to 
> adopt it, we would not be departing from consensus. We’d just be moving to a 
> certain well defined and organized form of consensus. Not having worked 
> within sociocracy and only having studied it, maybe my understanding is 
> wrong. Thoughts from others working within sociocracy?
> 
> Cheers,
> Mac
> 
> -- 
> Mac Thomson
> 
> Heartwood Cohousing
> Southwest Colorado
> http://www.heartwoodcohousing.com
> 
> 
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> 
>> On Dec 13, 2020, at 9:34 AM, Lauren Lake <laurenlake161 [at] gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Lyn,
>> 
>> I’ve been involved in a forming group that used consensus and an established 
>> group that uses sociocracy. Both work, but I have to say I like the concept 
>> of “consent” in sociocracy. It places realistic limits on when you can 
>> object to a decision.
>> 
>> There are communities out there that switched from consensus to sociocracy, 
>> maybe one of them could weigh in. Also, check out this webinar: 
>> https://www.sociocracyforall.org/consensus-to-sociocracy/.
>> 
>> 
>> Lauren Lake
>> Green Grove Cohousing
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Everyone,
>> 
>> I would like to hear from Co-Housing communities that have in any way moved 
>> back from Consensus. Did you adopt a Hybrid Consensus (move to a 
>> supermajority vote for example) or even abandoning it all together for a 
>> more traditional majority vote?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> If you wish to reply privately, understood: lynpeachtree [at] hotmail.com
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks so much for any sharing you can do!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Lyn Deardorff
>> 
>> Sand River Co-Housing
>> 
>> Lauren
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