Re: Electric Car usage in communities | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Chuck Harrison (cfharrgmail.com) | |
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2021 23:49:53 -0700 (PDT) |
We are using products from this company: https://www.variablegrid.net/ (They are based in Canada.) Chuck On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:33 PM Henning Mortensen <hmortensen [at] gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Chuck, > Thank you for your description of what you are doing. Can you tell me what > smart charger you are using? > I would be interested in the "smart" control system. If you can point me to > the right charger I will do the research rather than asking you to teach > me. > > Thanks > Henning > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 11:13 PM Chuck Harrison <cfharr [at] gmail.com> wrote: > > > At my community in Seattle, the first electric vehicle (a Leaf) arrived > > almost 10 years ago. The owner paid all costs to install a level 2 > charger > > at one of the common buildings adjacent to his assigned space in the > > parking area. The installation included a commercial-quality usage meter > > (kWh) and the owner pays an amount every month reimbursing the community > > for the measured usage. > > > > When the second EV (mine) arrived about 5 years later, the community > > realized that simply repeating the pattern of the first installation > would > > be unsustainable as we would quickly run out of electrical service > capacity > > for all the vehicles to charge simultaneously. Inasmuch as I have an > > engineering background, I began to look for an "optimum" solution. It > was a > > long time coming. > > > > Fast forward to today. We have six electric vehicles now, mostly charging > > on 120V (level 1) outlets, and the arrangements are rather ad hoc. > However > > we are building out a plan which will soon (next month!) provide four > level > > 2 stations and a "smart" control system which spreads out the charging > > power over time so that our existing electrical service will not be > > overloaded. Our plan has a long term vision of supporting about 25 > stations > > in our parking lot at a loosely estimated total cost of $100,000. The > build > > out will be incremental as demand arises. > > > > The money is not coming from the community budget; we established an "EV > > Collective" organization which is primarily funded by a one-time member > > subscription fee. All charging stations are owned by the Collective (no > > personal chargers permitted) and every EV owner is expected to join and > pay > > in. EV owners will reimburse the community for the amount of electricity > > used (the new level 2 stations we are installing automatically measure > > consumption and report it electronically). > > > > As I have shepherded this process for 5 years, I can probably answer > almost > > any question about our system. However I can't tell you how the "smart" > > charging actually performs until we complete the installation next month > > and get some experience with it. > > > > Chuck Harrison > > Duwamish Cohousing > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 8:47 PM Henning Mortensen <hmortensen [at] > > gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Thank you Muriel, > > > > > > We have all outlets in our parking garage charged to our common > > electrical > > > charge, so when I plugin I am upping the usage by charging and I > offered > > to > > > pay for it. We are just very confused about how this should be handled. > > > What happens when other larger battery cars (ie. tesla's and such) also > > > join the community and demand more than a 110v plug. > > > > > > I applaud your community for thinking ahead and getting ahead of the > > curve. > > > We have a level 2 charger installed but then assigned parking so the > > > charger is not available to me. > > > > > > btw we have been calculating KWH = battery size (24kwh) * (charge out - > > > charge in) * .95 charger efficiency > > > For my car this has resulted in calculations that correspond to a > > > kill-o-watt meter and a charge monitoring program from our power > company. > > > I keep track of when I charge, the mileage on the car and the charge > > level > > > out and it) > > > > > > I am glad to hear that your community saw the future need and invested > in > > > charging infrastructure. I am going to assume that the investment is > > being > > > recouped through charging fees beyond just the electricity used. > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 9:01 PM Muriel Kranowski <murielk [at] vt.edu> > wrote: > > > > > > > Why the consternation? Is it because your neighbors are all paying > for > > > your > > > > car's electrical charging? > > > > > > > > My community made a large investment (being paid back over several > > years) > > > > to install high-level charging stations in several locations. The > > initial > > > > installation was completed just a few months ago and the project is > > still > > > > being rolled out. What I just wrote is all I know about this so don't > > > > bother asking me for details, but it should be great for current and > > > future > > > > EV owners. > > > > Muriel at Shadowlake Village > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > > > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Cohousing-L mailing list -- Unsubscribe, archives and other info at: > http://L.cohousing.org/info > > > >
- Re: Electric Car usage in communities, (continued)
- Re: Electric Car usage in communities Bill Woolverton, July 27 2021
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Re: Electric Car usage in communities Henning Mortensen, July 27 2021
- Re: Electric Car usage in communities Chuck Harrison, July 27 2021
- Re: Electric Car usage in communities Henning Mortensen, July 27 2021
- Re: Electric Car usage in communities Chuck Harrison, July 27 2021
- Re: Electric Car usage in communities Elizabeth Magill, July 28 2021
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