Re: Workshare/Participation conversations
From: Kathleen Walsh (
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 18:43:31 -0700 (PDT)
Although we have an online recording system in place for "participation"
where I live,  "hours" are loosely defined by the people who complete
them...some give themselves "hours" for "thinking about emails", decorating
a room for a party they are hosting or picking a few weeds along a pathway
while walking their dog.  Because there is no clear standard around the
expectation, many members, including myself, are opposed to levying fees or
fines for "not participating" as what constitutes "completing hours" is so
arbitrary.   Most members do something to contribute, but a few people
consistently do much more of the heavy lifting and there are concerns, and
some resentment, about fairness and equity.

In addition, HOA members who do not live on the common property, but in
private homes elsewhere and own a full or partial share of an HOA rental
unit deed have full membership privileges, like the benefit of reserving
and using our guest bedrooms, but are not required to contribute work
towards maintaining the building, land or administrative tasks.  Many of
these members generally do something to contribute, but only what they want
to do, when they want to. This situation also creates tension around
perceptions of inequity.

K. Walsh

On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 6:03 PM regine via Cohousing-L <
cohousing-l [at]> wrote:

> In Nevada cohousing we pay $25 an hour for the hours we don’t work.  It
> should be mandatory but it’s not.  We have to pay taxes.  Likewise the
> community needs money to run itself.  If you can’t or won’t pay or do your
> share shouldn’t you not be living in a cooperative community.  It’s an
> obligation like paying your PG & E bill.  I know you can’t make people work
> or pay but there can be a person who talks to folks about it when
> they neglect their responsibility.
> R. Wilson
> Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
> On Monday, September 6, 2021, 12:17 PM, Chris Hansen <
> itschrishansen [at]> wrote:
> Hi all
> Just separating threads. There's been some mention on the 'inappropriate
> behavior' thread about participation and workshare conversations, and
> Muriel just posted that they have a 'workshare tracker' role, which
> intrigues me, and I'd like to hear more about!
> I know this topic has been discussed more times here than is countable, but
> I'm interested in how the subject of workshare is broached, who does it,
> and what has been found to be a manner that can be heard. I'm also
> interested in infrastructure such as a workshare tracker, and the systems
> many of you have in place for tracking.
> Has it ever been deemed an option to add to CoHo fees, or for some monetary
> exchange? (and yes I know this delves into issues around equity and
> privilege)
> Do people pay others to do their chores? Find 'exchange of service'
> options?
> What about for people who are aging and/or disabled- particularly in
> communities weighted age-wise toward the older end where there may be a
> growing number of people whose capacity is diminishing?
> What about meal-cooking share for those of you who have a requirement
> around sharing cooking duties for community meals?
> I realize this is probably too many questions in one email, but interested
> in how other Cohos are navigating this.
> --
> Chris Hansen
> 32 East Village Drive
> Burlington
> Vermont 05401
> Ph 603 3988730
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