RE: private use of commons | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: Susan Sweitzer (ssweitzer![]() |
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Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2004 14:39:00 -0700 (PDT) |
-----Original Message----- From: Lynn Nadeau [mailto:welcome [at] olympus.net] Subject: [C-L]_ private use of commons Those who advocate such private and semi-private use of commons see it as logical, efficient, and satisfying. Much quicker and easier than group process: the most extreme advocates of this approach hate all meetings and consider group process burdensome, irksome, and ineffective. Even a single discussion circle and proposal at one meeting. Does satisfying individual needs rank high as building community? To be happy here, I need to do what I want, where I want, when I want? If I can't, you are squashing my spirit, my creativity, and the community will suffer? Dear Lynn, We, at Cobb Hill, have certainly wrestled with these questions and not emerged unscathed! After three years in our homes and 270 acres of land, many, many things are moving along without discussion for lack of anyone having the energy or interest in dealing with the complicated and difficult dynamics around the very questions you ask. We haven't found answers which are satisfying to everyone, but we do have a working farm, one couple who owns and operates a 5 acre CSA on the property without a written or agreed upon arrangement for use of common land. Same with chickens, sheep, maple syrup operation, hay operation, pigs, dairy and cheese making. We are trying an enterprise system with independent enterprises, and some find that great, others find it frustrating, feel excluded or feel only those with financial resources can invest and thereby be part of the enterprises. The good side is that the land is being used and nurtured and improved. Hardly any enterprise is making money, but people are learning a lot. And, as a member of a couple of those enterprises, I have to say a good thing from my point of view is that I can make choices and decisions about sheep or maple syrup with only a minimum of discussion. On principle I believe in consensus and in discussion of everything ad nauseam, but even I have lost patience with some of the attitudes, demands and inability to shift of some members of our group. You are asking all the right questions, although I don't know the answers!! Hang in there! Susan Sweitzer Cobb Hill Hartland, VT
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private use of commons Lynn Nadeau, October 1 2004
- Re: private use of commons Sharon Villines, October 2 2004
- RE: private use of commons Susan Sweitzer, October 2 2004
- RE: private use of commons Alexander Robin A, October 1 2004
- Re: private use of commons Eris Weaver, October 1 2004
- Re:private use of commons Sandy Thomson, October 2 2004
- Re: private use of commons Fred H Olson, October 3 2004
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