Re: Consensus decision making | <– Date –> <– Thread –> |
From: John Faust (wjfaustgmail.com) | |
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 19:35:34 -0700 (PDT) |
The reason for suggesting blocks/objections be grounded in the vision/mission/principles of the community is because these represent the basic agreements on what the community aspires to (vision/mission) and how it should go about it (principles). The idea behind grounding blocks is *not* simply to expedite the process, though that may happen. Rather it is to keep it focused on the basic agreements of the community. Given the power of the block in consensus decision making, it should be used with care. Knowing that it might have to pass a minimal test should encourage the blocker to place it in that context. [I would also argue that all proposals should have the same grounding requirements--a clause indicating how it relates to the basic agreements.] This not a ploy to eliminate the unpopular block (which can be better grounded than the proposal it blocks); it is a ploy to eliminate the obstructive or gratuitous block that keeps the group from fulfilling their basic agreements. As Racheli points out, one of the difficulties may be that many communities view their basic agreements as formalities rather than substantive documents--*not defined well enough*. In those cases, this would be a meaningless addition to the consensus process. Looking at the alternative--ungrounded blocks, what is the process like? An obstructive block stalls the process. This is followed by a lot of discussion trying to get unstuck. What is the basis of the discussion? What besides the basic agreements should guide this discussion? The alternative is an ad hoc dialogue leading to where? It seems to me, if consistency is important in decision making, the only realistic framework for such discussions are the basic agreements. So in this case, frustration sets in and the escape clause is invoked and we are back to a super majority decision. Seems to me that if the proposal and blocks are placed in that context to begin with, then there might be a better chance of avoiding the escape clause. There is one more advantage from all of the attention given to the basic agreements. It will uncover their shortcomings. This will lead to amendments and a more workable set of agreements. John
- Re: Consensus decision making, (continued)
- Re: Consensus decision making Racheli Gai, August 11 2008
- Re: Consensus decision making Sharon Villines, August 11 2008
- Re: Consensus decision making Racheli Gai, August 11 2008
- Re: Consensus decision making Lyle Scheer, August 11 2008
- Re: Consensus decision making John Faust, August 11 2008
- Re: Consensus decision making Sharon Villines, August 12 2008
- Re: Consensus decision making Racheli Gai, August 12 2008
- Consensus and personal relatiionships Rob Sandelin, August 12 2008
- Re: Consensus decision making Matt Lawrence, August 11 2008
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